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@voodoo said in US Politics:
But we used to call them out and hold them to account.
Did "we". My view is the elite have always controlled the message through the media they own and only now have we a way to find an alternative viewpoint. Its a new world that the wealthy elite would like to largely close down. So only approved viewpoints can be read or heard.
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@Godder said in US Politics:
Fundamentally, businesses pay tax on profits, not revenue. Obviously that can be gamed by claiming marginal expenses, but if Trump is paying very limited taxes, the obvious inference is that he is making no profits.
Tax profits are different to accounting profits. (Esp where building increasing in value are concerned)
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Debate should be fun.
If Joe can hold it together without losing it, it'll be chalked up as a win. He has a more effective ah shucks everyman quality than Trump.
Biden is well rested and (probably) well medicated, so I think he has a good chance of doing well.
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so far as i see it, trump, simple and understandable, we won so get to do it...but didn't answer the second part of the question
Biden tried to answer everything but waffled
...was there a third option?
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@Winger said in US Politics:
@voodoo said in US Politics:
But we used to call them out and hold them to account.
Did "we". My view is the elite have always controlled the message through the media they own and only now have we a way to find an alternative viewpoint. Its a new world that the wealthy elite would like to largely close down. So only approved viewpoints can be read or heard.
"We" being the public. Large swathes of the public seem to hardly care anymore.
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...did Trump just say "no, you're a number 2"
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Trump's a monster. I swear Wallace aged 5 years trying to moderate that. Trump came across as a bully but also strong. Biden definitely 2nd best but didn't lose composure too much so is hardly going to lose votes over it. When it comes down to 2 people potentially lying about each other then its only impressions that count. Trump wins on that but I don't think there would be any impact on the polls.
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Gave me a headache, that’s part of my life I’ll never give back.
America you used to be cool.
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@Frank said in US Politics:
Sounds like it was a shitshow. Glad I am teaching and checking in to see it was a shitshow.
Two old guys talking over each other calling the other one a liar and ignoring the moderator. Moderator didn't insist on answers, so we got prepared soundbites.
Both got their attack quotes in, and I doubt anybody watching that has any different opinions on the canditates than before they started.
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