Coronavirus - UK
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So cases and deaths have shot up again today in the UK and funnily enough my daughter has been sent home with home learning workbooks and passwords to the online accounts incase there's an extension to the half term week coming up...
I'd bet money that Boris will spring it on us on Friday that the whole country will be doing a 2week lockdown. The middle ground isn't working, or is it? Doesn't feel like it would be when I look around and see idiots everywhere (tier 2), people have lost interest. -
@R-L said in Coronavirus - UK:
So cases and deaths have shot up again today in the UK and funnily enough my daughter has been sent home with home learning workbooks and passwords to the online accounts incase there's an extension to the half term week coming up...
I'd bet money that Boris will spring it on us on Friday that the whole country will be doing a 2week lockdown. The middle ground isn't working, or is it? Doesn't feel like it would be when I look around and see idiots everywhere (tier 2), people have lost interest.That really sucks, just a reoccurring nightmare for you guys. All of Europe seems to be back at the start of the year again with the numbers etc. Not sure how anyone could get on with their lives with this hanging over your heads.
When we had our 2nd semi lockdown it hit me hard and it’s nothing like what you guys are all facing.
The pressure on those companies working on the vaccine must be immense as well.
Least Xmas isn’t too far away, hopefully Santa won’t be stuck in lockdown as well. -
@Virgil said in Coronavirus - UK:
hopefully Santa won’t be stuck in lockdown as well
What if he's a super-spreader? Given the Dateline NZ should be OK, there's no COVID cases east of us, but by the time he gets to Europe he's bound to be infected. I'd be spraying all the pressies with Hospital Grade sanitiser before handing them out.
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@Catogrande said in Coronavirus - UK:
@dogmeat Doesn’t really matter, we’re likely on fat judgemental fluffybunny’s naughty list
I thought you meant Foster for a moment
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@Catogrande said in Coronavirus - UK:
@dogmeat Doesn’t really matter, we’re likely on fat judgemental fluffybunny’s naughty list
I haven't seen anything from him for over 40 years, which may say more about me than him to be fair.
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@MN5 said in Coronavirus - UK:
@Catogrande said in Coronavirus - UK:
@dogmeat Doesn’t really matter, we’re likely on fat judgemental fluffybunny’s naughty list
I thought you meant Foster for a moment
Nah. Foster is fat alright but it’s you lit that are the judgemental fluffybunnies 😏
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@Snowy said in Coronavirus - UK:
@Catogrande said in Coronavirus - UK:
@dogmeat Doesn’t really matter, we’re likely on fat judgemental fluffybunny’s naughty list
I haven't seen anything from him for over 40 years, which may say more about me than him to be fair.
Serial killer = naughty. Hmmm, might need to look at what constitutes very naughty in the Snowy household.
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@Bones yeah cool.
He explains the research that's been done since covid. 40,000 odd research papers i think he said. And is exasperated that we're still treating the thing like we don't know more than we did in march. Just ignoring all we've discovered since then. Talks about how Sweden just followed science and will be/are better off. It's not a spruiker of Sweden as he says France and Spain show similar patterns. He's aghast that compulsory masks came in in the height of summer, when risk was lowest and immunities are in a strengthening phase. Masks at that time totally unscientific justification.
Says a vaccine will only make you a bit less sick and indeed a vaccine for Coronavirus has never been made ever before.
Really worried about the political influence in what is purely a medical and scientific domain. Cites many big guys in virology etc who strongly disagree with current policies. Said there are no studies that showed Coronavirus in the past is stopped by masks, all say ineffective.That's off the top of my head.
Just the way he spoke and referred to science and data made it a valuable clear voice in a sea of bullshit.Worth giving him 5-10 minutes because it made me understand the virus better. Not a political podcast either.
Take away message is that uk and Ireland are reacting like it's still march 15 and all the medical fraternity disagree with the way it's being handled. Believe we are needlessly suffering with no evidence to back up these policies.
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Edit oh and wants us to serious ask ourselves why there was never a huge spike or incidence of covid in supermarkets all through lockdown. Its the only place where consistently everyone went there and maskless a lot of the time. Supermarket staff getting covid?
Whatever your answer, you'll need research references to better him 🙂
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@Siam said in Coronavirus - UK:
@Bones yeah cool.
He explains the research that's been done since covid. 40,000 odd research papers i think he said. And is exasperated that we're still treating the thing like we don't know more than we did in march. Just ignoring all we've discovered since then. Talks about how Sweden just followed science and will be/are better off. It's not a spruiker of Sweden as he says France and Spain show similar patterns. He's aghast that compulsory masks came in in the height of summer, when risk was lowest and immunities are in a strengthening phase. Masks at that time totally unscientific justification.
Says a vaccine will only make you a bit less sick and indeed a vaccine for Coronavirus has never been made ever before.
Really worried about the political influence in what is purely a medical and scientific domain. Cites many big guys in virology etc who strongly disagree with current policies. Said there are no studies that showed Coronavirus in the past is stopped by masks, all say ineffective.That's off the top of my head.
Just the way he spoke and referred to science and data made it a valuable clear voice in a sea of bullshit.Worth giving him 5-10 minutes because it made me understand the virus better. Not a political podcast either.
Take away message is that uk and Ireland are reacting like it's still march 15 and all the medical fraternity disagree with the way it's being handled. Believe we are needlessly suffering with no evidence to back up these policies.
👍
Edit oh and wants us to serious ask ourselves why there was never a huge spike or incidence of covid in supermarkets all through lockdown. Its the only place where consistently everyone went there and maskless a lot of the time. Supermarket staff getting covid?
Whatever your answer, you'll need research references to better him 🙂
Thanks for the summary Siam, I wouldn't take an hour either to spend listening - perhaps to my own detriment.
Basically, covid is just politicised here now. Generally, outside the hospitality industry at least, people are just getting on with it. If you decided to ruin your mental health and look into it, you just see a whole bunch of shit fighting between the lock down everything NOW as Boris is a butcher camp, and the lockdowns only hurt people more camp. It's a waste of time.
After the Manchester Mayor (Burnham) took his stance on the tier 3, he's either being championed as a man of the people who stood up to the Government, or somebody who tried to take them on for his benefit and lost. Truth probably somewhere in between.
I think everybody here has good and bad days. Ultimately, just gotta shove your head down and keep plodding on.
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@MajorRage yeah, I haven't been following the Manchester stuff that closely, but Bonesetta has (and is inherently Labour), so filled me in a little. My main question was, if he's asking for all this extra support before going into Tier 3 - why isn't he spending time shouting about how they've identified just why Manchester has had to be locked down for so long with no improvement and the steps they're looking to take to turn that around?
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Heading back in to Lockdown tomorrow at 6pm
Can't drive to exercise.
Snow forecast next week
My moniker will be in full force if it does
'If it's snowing, I'm going'
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@pakman said in Coronavirus - UK:
Listened this arvo to some Welsh politico on BBC Radio 4. Detailed discussion on whether or not a replacement kettle was an essential purchase.
Curiouser and curiouser...
Fucking joke.
Clothes are now 'non-essential' items in supermarkets.
Have these Labour fuckers got shares in online delivery companies?
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@MiketheSnow said in Coronavirus - UK:
@pakman said in Coronavirus - UK:
Listened this arvo to some Welsh politico on BBC Radio 4. Detailed discussion on whether or not a replacement kettle was an essential purchase.
Curiouser and curiouser...
Fucking joke.
Clothes are now 'non-essential' items in supermarkets.
Have these Labour fuckers got shares in online delivery companies?
I heard the the clothing issue was intended to ensure it is fair on clothes retailers who can’t open. What about the fucking internet you twats? Is that not “unfair” as well?
It’s no wonder that the current rules are getting everyone pissed off. Just stupidity and stupidity that everyone can see.
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@Siam said in Coronavirus - UK:
@Bones yeah cool.
He explains the research that's been done since covid. 40,000 odd research papers i think he said. And is exasperated that we're still treating the thing like we don't know more than we did in march. Just ignoring all we've discovered since then. Talks about how Sweden just followed science and will be/are better off. It's not a spruiker of Sweden as he says France and Spain show similar patterns. He's aghast that compulsory masks came in in the height of summer, when risk was lowest and immunities are in a strengthening phase. Masks at that time totally unscientific justification.
Says a vaccine will only make you a bit less sick and indeed a vaccine for Coronavirus has never been made ever before.
Really worried about the political influence in what is purely a medical and scientific domain. Cites many big guys in virology etc who strongly disagree with current policies. Said there are no studies that showed Coronavirus in the past is stopped by masks, all say ineffective.That's off the top of my head.
Just the way he spoke and referred to science and data made it a valuable clear voice in a sea of bullshit.Worth giving him 5-10 minutes because it made me understand the virus better. Not a political podcast either.
Take away message is that uk and Ireland are reacting like it's still march 15 and all the medical fraternity disagree with the way it's being handled. Believe we are needlessly suffering with no evidence to back up these policies.
👍
Edit oh and wants us to serious ask ourselves why there was never a huge spike or incidence of covid in supermarkets all through lockdown. Its the only place where consistently everyone went there and maskless a lot of the time. Supermarket staff getting covid?
Whatever your answer, you'll need research references to better him 🙂
You can't believe that's true, he's been at the forefront of the "lockdowns are wrong" movement for months.