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@Snowy said in US Politics:
63 ain't much, but on this scale just seems beyond the realms of possibilty.
Agreed. Maybe in one concentrated area (Northern Ireland was rife) but not spread across the US.
Unless the Illuminati are involved.
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@Snowy said in US Politics:
@Winger said in US Politics:
I'm just repeating claims made.
So claims made by Donald? Who is losing.
But these claims of massive fraud need to be investigated. Whether its by Joe or Donald
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@Victor-Meldrew said in US Politics:
Unless the Illuminati are involved.
Maybe the Russians again. Putin (Donald's mate) has lost power (that why he's stepping down) and the new lot are mates with Joe. And are helping him out
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@Winger said in US Politics:
@Victor-Meldrew said in US Politics:
@Winger said in US Politics:
One way is removing ballots and replacing them. Or inserting ballots where the voter didn't vote. For example there are claims that ballot were carried in in the early hours after polling day
So, bearing in mind the large increase in postal votes, it would make sense to think this was done by Trump, right?
Trump had huge rallies and momentum. Joe not so much. So if cheating was to be done its unlikely to be Trump doing it
Even though Trump knew alot of Biden voters would be voting by post, presenting him a huge opportunity for fraud, if he were that way inclined..or his supporters
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@Victor-Meldrew said in US Politics:
@Snowy said in US Politics:
63 ain't much, but on this scale just seems beyond the realms of possibilty.
Agreed. Maybe in one concentrated area (Northern Ireland was rife) but not spread across the US.
Unless the Illuminati are involved.
I think that my illuminati post was removed from this thread so not going there...and I was taking the piss. My bad.
@Winger said in US Politics:
But these claims of massive fraud need to be investigated. Whether its by Joe or Donald
I agree with the sentiment, but is there actually any evidence of mass fraud? And again how do they do it on a large scale?
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@Winger said in US Politics:
Maybe the Russians again. Putin (Donald's mate) has lost power (that why he's stepping down) and the new lot are mates with Joe. And are helping him out
This has to be the funniest Fern post for quite some time.....
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@Godder said in US Politics:
Maybe, just maybe, Joe was more popular than his party and won.
And, as I was explaining to my daughter: a lot of people voting Republican aren't doing it for Trump. They might have really good local GOP representation or simply be better off in the last few years than they were in Obama's time for reasons completely unrelated to the presidency.
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@Winger said in US Politics:
@Snowy said in US Politics:
And again how do they do it on a large scale?
These two are smart people.
I thought that you had no faith in the MSM? That's also Fox - known as Trump news.
I agree that it should be looked into but things that Sidney says...she's a lawyer (and Michael Flynn's lawyer). I wouldn't take that as gospel yet.
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@Winger said in US Politics:
Heres a tweet on the Dominion voting system
The election software system in Michigan that switched 6,000 votes from Trump to Biden is called "Dominion."
I remember these debates in 2000 when some Democrats were raging about Bush and the Republicans stealing that election with electronic vote machines manufactured by Republican Party donors, but the complaints didn't get any traction then either.
There are lots of things I think they could do better, but it's a large logistical challenge to count 150 million votes, and paper ballots without some sort of machine count aren't popular on either side.
Voter ID is unlikely in the USA because of a very long history of using it for suppressing Blacks from voting, and a long list of Supreme Court decisions effectively banning voter ID requirements.
The other issue is that fundamentally all ID comes back to a birth certificate, so it's falsifiable if it is really necessary. If the Democrats are so good at voter fraud, you better believe they'll be all over this too, and unlike machine allegations, there's no defence to this. That's without getting into the citizen ID card issue that this would engender.
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@Winger said in US Politics:
@Snowy said in US Politics:
And again how do they do it on a large scale?
These two are smart people.
They mention Hammer and Scorecard
Hammer collects information
Scorecard can change vote totalsApparantly
"Statistically impossible as a matter of mathematics"? Maybe not that smart...
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@voodoo said in US Politics:
@Winger said in US Politics:
@Snowy said in US Politics:
And again how do they do it on a large scale?
These two are smart people.
They mention Hammer and Scorecard
Hammer collects information
Scorecard can change vote totalsApparantly
"Statistically impossible as a matter of mathematics"? Maybe not that smart...
Big words make smart brain
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President Elect Biden speaking now, sounding pretty sharp, more so than he has for a while
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@Kiwiwomble said in US Politics:
President Elect Biden speaking now, sounding pretty sharp, more so than he has for a while
very shouty though
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No us and them talk, just really positive, good to hear
Have to say, it’s fascinating how little talk there has been about the first female Vice President
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