Coronavirus - UK
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so what are the restrictions?
From what I gather from the 2nd hand info from MRs TR when she talks to her parents is that it still isnt as strict as what we had back in March?
Mrs TRs dad has sold his house (in Herts inside M25) is moving North (Staffordshire) and is still allowed to move (think he needs to be out in 2 weeks)
Those new daily case numbers in the UK are just crazy!
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@dogmeat said in Coronavirus - UK:
@R-L said in Coronavirus - UK:
"all in this together"
Seemingly not. Had an email from the UK bemoaning lockdown and all the constraints but have to do what's necessary to curb the outbreak etc. Message ended with "we'll probably break it on New Years Eve but we'll only have a few people over".....
Not a winning attitude. When will people stop railing against these lockdowns and realise the best way out of them as soon as possible is to do what they need to and follow the rules?
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@dogmeat said in Coronavirus - UK:
Seemingly not. Had an email from the UK bemoaning lockdown and all the constraints but have to do what's necessary to curb the outbreak etc. Message ended with "we'll probably break it on New Years Eve but we'll only have a few people over".....
Meanwhile in Tier 4 Wales, in the Brecon Beacons: "One man drove nearly 200 miles from Hertfordshire to walk up Pen-y-Fan, while a minibus of mixed households had travelled to the area from Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, "to see the snow", according to Dyfed-Powys Police.
Any more of this and I'll need to do a rant in Grumpy Old Men thread...
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@canefan said in Coronavirus - UK:
@dogmeat said in Coronavirus - UK:
@R-L said in Coronavirus - UK:
"all in this together"
Seemingly not. Had an email from the UK bemoaning lockdown and all the constraints but have to do what's necessary to curb the outbreak etc. Message ended with "we'll probably break it on New Years Eve but we'll only have a few people over".....
Not a winning attitude. When will people stop railing against these lockdowns and realise the best way out of them as soon as possible is to do what they need to and follow the rules?
I'm doing both. Railing against the lockdowns, and also against the authorities for not putting place proper penalties for those who break the rules and cause them to be extended.
Case in point, 9 ppl from the Northern Beaches here decided to ignore restrictions, and travelled out of the zone to a wedding. Including the bride and groom.
They got fined 1k each.
Whoop-de-fucking-do
Fine these pricks $50k and put them in jail for a week, and then we will see how many more break the rules. Suspect not many and then we can get the fucknout of lockdown.
As an aside, there hasn't been a new case in the "Southern Northern Beaches " (a new zone invented by our Premier) in days, and yet we remain locked in our little area and unable to entertain, go to the gym, eat out.
Its pretty fucked
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@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - UK:
@voodoo lockdown follows you!
Yeah @voodoo make sure you stay of Qld!
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@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - UK:
@voodoo lockdown follows you!
!!!
An old friend reminded me today of when I dropped out of uni for 6mths to go snowboarding. First Turoa erupted, so I had to go south. Then it didn't snow at Cardrona for 6 weeks straight. I ended up working as a liftie back at Turoa when it opened then working in insurance in Palmie for the summer!
I should NOT be taking time off anything again!
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I find it near unfathomable to understand the impact covid-19 is wreaking in the UK. Where I am it's basically a non-event with some (almost) insufferable overreach from politicians.
Hopefully you all get through this with the least amount of embuggerance.
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@MiketheSnow said in Coronavirus - UK:
@antipodean said in Coronavirus - UK:
I don’t recall Wales being ‘closed’ in November 2003.
Quite the reverse I'd have thought. You lot were back from Australia sometime before us
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@canefan said in Coronavirus - UK:
@dogmeat said in Coronavirus - UK:
@R-L said in Coronavirus - UK:
"all in this together"
Seemingly not. Had an email from the UK bemoaning lockdown and all the constraints but have to do what's necessary to curb the outbreak etc. Message ended with "we'll probably break it on New Years Eve but we'll only have a few people over".....
Not a winning attitude. When will people stop railing against these lockdowns and realise the best way out of them as soon as possible is to do what they need to and follow the rules?
Here in the UK I’m finding it hard to deal with the fact that I have normally sane , rational old friends that have blatantly and consistently, broken the COVID rules over the year. Makes me question my relationship with them. Despite everything going on (I live in the Sth East with some of the highest infection rates in the country), they're hosting a party (albeit small and I’m not attending!) tonight. So hypocritical when a couple of them have v strong socialist views that they’re not afraid to voice.
It’s just fucking weak and so selfish. I wish they’d take some personal responsibility; it’s not like the rest of us don’t want to socialise and have more freedom. I read a BBC report today from an intensive care Dr who said people like my friends, ‘have blood on their hands’ as intensive care units will be totally fucked within 2 weeks, not because of the new virulent strains but because the basic rules are not being adhered to.
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@Catogrande said in Coronavirus - UK:
@MiketheSnow said in Coronavirus - UK:
@antipodean said in Coronavirus - UK:
I don’t recall Wales being ‘closed’ in November 2003.
Quite the reverse I'd have thought. You lot were back from Australia sometime before us
Well played
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@scribe said in Coronavirus - UK:
@canefan said in Coronavirus - UK:
@dogmeat said in Coronavirus - UK:
@R-L said in Coronavirus - UK:
"all in this together"
Seemingly not. Had an email from the UK bemoaning lockdown and all the constraints but have to do what's necessary to curb the outbreak etc. Message ended with "we'll probably break it on New Years Eve but we'll only have a few people over".....
Not a winning attitude. When will people stop railing against these lockdowns and realise the best way out of them as soon as possible is to do what they need to and follow the rules?
Here in the UK I’m finding it hard to deal with the fact that I have normally sane , rational old friends that have blatantly and consistently, broken the COVID rules over the year. Makes me question my relationship with them. Despite everything going on (I live in the Sth East with some of the highest infection rates in the country), they're hosting a party (albeit small and I’m not attending!) tonight. So hypocritical when a couple of them have v strong socialist views that they’re not afraid to voice.
It’s just fucking weak and so selfish. I wish they’d take some personal responsibility; it’s not like the rest of us don’t want to socialise and have more freedom. I read a BBC report today from an intensive care Dr who said people like my friends, ‘have blood on their hands’ as intensive care units will be totally fucked within 2 weeks, not because of the new virulent strains but because the basic rules are not being adhered to.
My understanding is the vast majority of people needing hospitalisation are already in the 'at risk' category.
If they are taking the necessary precautions to avoid catching the virus, how are they catching it?
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@scribe said in Coronavirus - UK:
@canefan said in Coronavirus - UK:
@dogmeat said in Coronavirus - UK:
@R-L said in Coronavirus - UK:
"all in this together"
Seemingly not. Had an email from the UK bemoaning lockdown and all the constraints but have to do what's necessary to curb the outbreak etc. Message ended with "we'll probably break it on New Years Eve but we'll only have a few people over".....
Not a winning attitude. When will people stop railing against these lockdowns and realise the best way out of them as soon as possible is to do what they need to and follow the rules?
Here in the UK I’m finding it hard to deal with the fact that I have normally sane , rational old friends that have blatantly and consistently, broken the COVID rules over the year. Makes me question my relationship with them. Despite everything going on (I live in the Sth East with some of the highest infection rates in the country), they're hosting a party (albeit small and I’m not attending!) tonight. So hypocritical when a couple of them have v strong socialist views that they’re not afraid to voice.
It’s just fucking weak and so selfish. I wish they’d take some personal responsibility; it’s not like the rest of us don’t want to socialise and have more freedom. I read a BBC report today from an intensive care Dr who said people like my friends, ‘have blood on their hands’ as intensive care units will be totally fucked within 2 weeks, not because of the new virulent strains but because the basic rules are not being adhered to.
Here he is. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55479018
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@pakman said in Coronavirus - UK:
@scribe said in Coronavirus - UK:
@canefan said in Coronavirus - UK:
@dogmeat said in Coronavirus - UK:
@R-L said in Coronavirus - UK:
"all in this together"
Seemingly not. Had an email from the UK bemoaning lockdown and all the constraints but have to do what's necessary to curb the outbreak etc. Message ended with "we'll probably break it on New Years Eve but we'll only have a few people over".....
Not a winning attitude. When will people stop railing against these lockdowns and realise the best way out of them as soon as possible is to do what they need to and follow the rules?
Here in the UK I’m finding it hard to deal with the fact that I have normally sane , rational old friends that have blatantly and consistently, broken the COVID rules over the year. Makes me question my relationship with them. Despite everything going on (I live in the Sth East with some of the highest infection rates in the country), they're hosting a party (albeit small and I’m not attending!) tonight. So hypocritical when a couple of them have v strong socialist views that they’re not afraid to voice.
It’s just fucking weak and so selfish. I wish they’d take some personal responsibility; it’s not like the rest of us don’t want to socialise and have more freedom. I read a BBC report today from an intensive care Dr who said people like my friends, ‘have blood on their hands’ as intensive care units will be totally fucked within 2 weeks, not because of the new virulent strains but because the basic rules are not being adhered to.
Here he is. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55479018
“The people we are getting are, like the first wave, my age really. I am 58 and I would say half the patients are younger than me. It is middle-aged people or a little bit older that we are getting."
But are they already compromised before contracting COVID-19?
Because if they are, and it’s self-inflicted, then the pigeons are coming home to roost.
It’s a harsh statement but no harsher than the Doc in the article.
He’s calling ‘us’ murderers.
I’ll counter with those affected have been committing suicide for years.
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@canefan said in Coronavirus - UK:
@dogmeat said in Coronavirus - UK:
@R-L said in Coronavirus - UK:
"all in this together"
Seemingly not. Had an email from the UK bemoaning lockdown and all the constraints but have to do what's necessary to curb the outbreak etc. Message ended with "we'll probably break it on New Years Eve but we'll only have a few people over".....
Not a winning attitude. When will people stop railing against these lockdowns and realise the best way out of them as soon as possible is to do what they need to and follow the rules?
Never. The UK national pastime is finding loopholes
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@MiketheSnow said in Coronavirus - UK:
@scribe said in Coronavirus - UK:
@canefan said in Coronavirus - UK:
@dogmeat said in Coronavirus - UK:
@R-L said in Coronavirus - UK:
"all in this together"
Seemingly not. Had an email from the UK bemoaning lockdown and all the constraints but have to do what's necessary to curb the outbreak etc. Message ended with "we'll probably break it on New Years Eve but we'll only have a few people over".....
Not a winning attitude. When will people stop railing against these lockdowns and realise the best way out of them as soon as possible is to do what they need to and follow the rules?
Here in the UK I’m finding it hard to deal with the fact that I have normally sane , rational old friends that have blatantly and consistently, broken the COVID rules over the year. Makes me question my relationship with them. Despite everything going on (I live in the Sth East with some of the highest infection rates in the country), they're hosting a party (albeit small and I’m not attending!) tonight. So hypocritical when a couple of them have v strong socialist views that they’re not afraid to voice.
It’s just fucking weak and so selfish. I wish they’d take some personal responsibility; it’s not like the rest of us don’t want to socialise and have more freedom. I read a BBC report today from an intensive care Dr who said people like my friends, ‘have blood on their hands’ as intensive care units will be totally fucked within 2 weeks, not because of the new virulent strains but because the basic rules are not being adhered to.
My understanding is the vast majority of people needing hospitalisation are already in the 'at risk' category.
If they are taking the necessary precautions to avoid catching the virus, how are they catching it?
A 41 year old US congressman made the news yesterday as the highest ranking politician to date to have been claimed by covid19. Not the first younger person to die, just notable enough to make the news
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@pakman said in Coronavirus - UK:
@scribe said in Coronavirus - UK:
@canefan said in Coronavirus - UK:
@dogmeat said in Coronavirus - UK:
@R-L said in Coronavirus - UK:
"all in this together"
Seemingly not. Had an email from the UK bemoaning lockdown and all the constraints but have to do what's necessary to curb the outbreak etc. Message ended with "we'll probably break it on New Years Eve but we'll only have a few people over".....
Not a winning attitude. When will people stop railing against these lockdowns and realise the best way out of them as soon as possible is to do what they need to and follow the rules?
Here in the UK I’m finding it hard to deal with the fact that I have normally sane , rational old friends that have blatantly and consistently, broken the COVID rules over the year. Makes me question my relationship with them. Despite everything going on (I live in the Sth East with some of the highest infection rates in the country), they're hosting a party (albeit small and I’m not attending!) tonight. So hypocritical when a couple of them have v strong socialist views that they’re not afraid to voice.
It’s just fucking weak and so selfish. I wish they’d take some personal responsibility; it’s not like the rest of us don’t want to socialise and have more freedom. I read a BBC report today from an intensive care Dr who said people like my friends, ‘have blood on their hands’ as intensive care units will be totally fucked within 2 weeks, not because of the new virulent strains but because the basic rules are not being adhered to.
Here he is. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55479018
Interesting article that raised a few points for me:
Why does a highly qualified health professional use emotional language one usually expects from a news reader? "Blood on your hands" in this instance is literally and professionally untrue. Way too much sensationalism.Never any numbers or percentages or data. Simply sweeping statements: "We are in a lot of trouble in UK intensive care now.
"Just huge numbers coming in, my heart goes out as well to our emergency departments, seeing a tsunami in the last week or two of cases. Everyone is working at maximum stretch."
Where? In your hospital or every hospital? How many is a "tsunami" and is that an actual technical name of a metric used by hospitals when describing hospital capacities?
The irony of an official in favour of lockdown stating: "They won't know they have killed people but they have."
And finally, the best example of a non precise and sensationalist piece of deceitful fear mongering:
"I am watching whole families getting wiped out here, and it's got to stop."
I call Bullshit. We're bickering over a 41 year old congressman as the only public example of a youngish person dying and this professor is stating that numerous families are dying in front of him!
What mum dad the kids and grandparents getting "wiped out"? Dying in your hospital often? Bollocks and shame on you for talking to us like we're teenagers voting on a reality show.COVID is not the problem, assessing credibility and information driving these strategies is very sub standard and flighty.
They spread fear far more readily than data.
So, do essential workers like truckdrivers or supermarket workers, inadvertently getting the virus have blood on their hands too? No? Oh just the ones violating lock down rules huh? Clever virus