Dad advice sharing thread.



  • @NTA said in Dad advice sharing thread.:

    @mariner4life said in Dad advice sharing thread.:

    fucking loves to win (a little too much for a 7 year old)

    Apple. Tree.

    yea look, i am aware of that. I am trying to be better. It's 7 years since i stopped playing rugby, the competitive thing should have died out by now. I just want to be able to lose at cards gracefully...

    And i make all the right noises about participation and effort and stuff. And never focus on the result when it comes to my appraisal of their game. And try very hard to praise things that help the team. But you still need to tell them it's really fucking good to win. Thankfully they both know that, i know a lot of kids that don't get that part.



  • @mariner4life don't mishear me: kids have to be taught to fight for the win, and suck it up if they lose.



  • @mooshld have you thought about miniball? Its skills based for the first few years so he doesn't have to be part of a team so much. But the kids are slowly brought into team play

    My son is 11 and has done it since 6yo-10yo. It's really been good for him - he hated league/union because he was all arms and legs. Not very coordinated. But now he is very athletic and it's totally because of the miniball. He's taken an interest in footy too(and considering he's going to Keebra Park High next year it's a plus). Now that he's more confident.



  • Thanks for all the advice. I will see if he has a mate we can rope into it. If not then I won't push and just bring him along to see if he catches the bug. Otherwise will keep up the trail rides on the bike. As for miniball. We don't have that here sadly but it looks cool.



  • @mariner4life yea my boys team suffered s heavy defeat last year, didn't dwell too much on it but I asked them what they learned from losing.

    One kid gave the answer I was after; it sucks.

    So I said to them it is ok to lose, but you shouldn't like it, it should be what drives you.



  • Took my eldest to his first Top 14 game on the weekend. Awesome dad experience. He was so excited the whole game and the Racing people really put on a show with the pre match intros. Racing won by a point and it was a great atmosphere. Already planning the next game to go to.

    Went to check him last night before going to bed, and he had snuck into his rugby kit to sleep in.



  • @mooshld ooh now that is gold!!



  • JK Jnr rugby update....

    Ended up in J5 and at the top of the weight range. Decided to do this and be with his mates rather than going up a grade and being with kids he didnt know....well that was the idea anyway.

    Apparantly huge debate at the club when it came to team selections and his team last year has been totally split up with 3-4 of them going in to each of the different teams. They just took the view that it wasn't good for the club or the comp having a team that was so dominant (their closest game was a win by about 10 tries over a pretty solid massey team).

    At first all us Dads were a bit gutted as the boys are all good mates (from the same primary school) but can understand the rationale and so do the boys so it is what it is. Also gives an opportunity for some of the boys to shine a bit more in their respective teams plus make some new friends.

    First training was last week and went well. Seems a good bunch of lads and the two he has got from his team last year are pretty decent (with good dads too). They kids are all fizzing for their first game. Unfortunately we will miss it as off to the states for a few weeks but yeah can't wait for those rugby saturday mornings to get underway.



  • @JK that does make sense. Good for the kids to get a chance to make new friends too. If it's meant to be a lot of those kids will meet back up when they hit reps.... wait, you're in the North Harbour catchment aren't you? 😛

    On that note, did the Harbour union release their research into rep teams at younger ages being a barrier to participation etc?



  • @Paekakboyz said in Dad advice sharing thread.:

    @JK that does make sense. Good for the kids to get a chance to make new friends too. If it's meant to be a lot of those kids will meet back up when they hit reps.... wait, you're in the North Harbour catchment aren't you? 😛

    On that note, did the Harbour union release their research into rep teams at younger ages being a barrier to participation etc?

    Nah haven't heard anything. Our club was against it as far as I am aware.



  • @Paekakboyz apparently someone high up in NRU was keen on doing this as well (am guessing most boards had discussed what NH was doing prior as it was announced around the same time as NH, but was shot down quickly...so I think at some point NZR will make the decision for all unions)

    My boys team are at that all important U14 age this year, where it seems they are making it far too easy for kids not to play!

    We have boys in our team at 40kg, and I know one other team has 2 100kg kids, who are both athletes, not just big lumps!



  • @taniwharugby seems like people do agree that dropping participation levels are an issue, particularly through secondary age years. If they've got some solid info/data to back up that approach then all good. I would have thought NZR would get involved as part of the conversation, as having different unions drop in/out of any level of rep comps would have an impact on scheduling etc.



  • @JK said in Dad advice sharing thread.:

    Son is stepping up to hardball cricket this year. Its a year early for him so playing against older kids plus he's small so a little apprehensive but he dominated in his 8 a side T20 last year for year 3s and made the year 4 (a year up) rep squad.

    Any tips for the step up? Will be first time wearing pads, helmet etc.

    Had a bit of a net session with him on sat morning and to be honest I didnt like facing him that much with the add speed he gets bowling with the heavier ball. Couple of waist high full tosses came through and I was just happy to get out of the fkn way

    Time to start thinking about cricket again...

    Had the registrations email come through this week and looks like JKjnr can repeat under 10s so first year hardball or move up to under 11. Can see the benefit of both but leaning towards repeating under 10s to give him more time to improve his batting. Does mean he won’t be playing with most the team he played with last year and move away from a very encouraging coach which is a bit of a bugger



  • @JK has jnr given any indication of what he'd prefer?



  • @Paekakboyz said in Dad advice sharing thread.:

    @JK has jnr given any indication of what he'd prefer?

    Yeah he initially was keen to repeat U10 as bowling wont be as fast but he would also then need to deal with the shite bowling he encountered last year that sometime doesnt even land on the pitch!

    Anyway, since I've posted it looks like the 3 other lads in his team from last year are all keen to play under 11 (well thats what the parents say) so looks like we are going for that. Club said would apply for a dispensation from Auckland Cricket for them to play U11s BUT the kids would need to be available for Under 10 reps if selected



  • @JK said in Dad advice sharing thread.:

    Batting not as good as just doesnt hit the boundaries the other kids do

    Hadn't really looked at this thread but was just scrolling through -that is an even more pertinent comment from his last season given what has happened since. Need to fix that this year Dad, could cost us another World cup one day (kidding - would rather another Kane than Brendan).



  • That was a timely bump from JK. We have #2 on the way so I'll be looking to the fern collective for advice on how to manage two mini-humans!!



  • @Paekakboyz There might be better places to look bro. Just saying.
    Our advice on pretty much anything is usually questionable.

    And congrats. And good luck.



  • @Snowy hey, even getting advice to weigh down one end of the 'things to do' scale is useful!

    I think the 'usually' was surplus to requirements 🙂

    Cheers!!



  • @Paekakboyz said in Dad advice sharing thread.:

    That was a timely bump from JK. We have #2 on the way so I'll be looking to the fern collective for advice on how to manage two mini-humans!!

    Congrats mate!



  • Dunno if this is the right thread but it seemed like a parenting thing to me.

    MR to 5 yr daughter “miss x, have you seen your older brother”
    5 yr daughter “He’s taking a dump”.

    Brought a tear to my eye.



  • @MajorRage you've done well mate!



  • @MajorRage said in Dad advice sharing thread.:

    Dunno if this is the right thread but it seemed like a parenting thing to me.

    MR to 5 yr daughter “miss x, have you seen your older brother”
    5 yr daughter “He’s taking a dump”.

    Brought a tear to my eye.

    Got a bit dusty here reading that .

    Well done mate



  • @Paekakboyz bit late in the piece for the advice I'd give 😉

    Seriously though, congrats!



  • @taniwharugby ha ha the ol Northland pull out maneuver aye!!



  • @Paekakboyz said in Dad advice sharing thread.:

    @taniwharugby ha ha the ol Northland pull out maneuver aye!!

    never fails...



  • @mariner4life 60% of the time it works every time!!



  • @Paekakboyz said in Dad advice sharing thread.:

    ol Northland pull out maneuver aye!!

    strategic withdrawal.



  • @taniwharugby said in Dad advice sharing thread.:

    @Paekakboyz said in Dad advice sharing thread.:

    ol Northland pull out maneuver aye!!

    strategic withdrawal.

    i was about to make a comment, but it would have got us flagged again



  • @mariner4life that can be a non-s3xual withdrawal too.



  • @taniwharugby said in Dad advice sharing thread.:

    @mariner4life that can be a non-s3xual withdrawal too.

    depends on how many beers you have had





  • @jegga that is brilliant!



  • @MajorRage said in Dad advice sharing thread.:

    Dunno if this is the right thread but it seemed like a parenting thing to me.

    MR to 5 yr daughter “miss x, have you seen your older brother”
    5 yr daughter “He’s taking a dump”.

    Brought a tear to my eye.

    Update. Asked her if she’s ready to go yesterday.

    “Soon, just need a piss first”.

    Less ideal.



  • @JK said in Dad advice sharing thread.:

    @Paekakboyz said in Dad advice sharing thread.:

    @JK has jnr given any indication of what he'd prefer?

    Yeah he initially was keen to repeat U10 as bowling wont be as fast but he would also then need to deal with the shite bowling he encountered last year that sometime doesnt even land on the pitch!

    Anyway, since I've posted it looks like the 3 other lads in his team from last year are all keen to play under 11 (well thats what the parents say) so looks like we are going for that. Club said would apply for a dispensation from Auckland Cricket for them to play U11s BUT the kids would need to be available for Under 10 reps if selected

    Update....got that dispensation so the lad is playing up a grade in under 11s. 3rd game of the season and he picked up a hattick today and all of them were bowled. Slowest bowler in the team but pretty much always a Yorker or just short of and if you miss then he hits. Proud dad!!!

    Edit - vid of hattrick ball


    You can see how little he is vs some of the others



  • @JK said in Dad advice sharing thread.:

    @JK said in Dad advice sharing thread.:

    @Paekakboyz said in Dad advice sharing thread.:

    @JK has jnr given any indication of what he'd prefer?

    Yeah he initially was keen to repeat U10 as bowling wont be as fast but he would also then need to deal with the shite bowling he encountered last year that sometime doesnt even land on the pitch!

    Anyway, since I've posted it looks like the 3 other lads in his team from last year are all keen to play under 11 (well thats what the parents say) so looks like we are going for that. Club said would apply for a dispensation from Auckland Cricket for them to play U11s BUT the kids would need to be available for Under 10 reps if selected

    Update....got that dispensation so the lad is playing up a grade in under 11s. 3rd game of the season and he picked up a hattick today and all of them were bowled. Slowest bowler in the team but pretty much always a Yorker or just short of and if you miss then he hits. Proud dad!!!

    Edit - vid of hattrick ball


    You can see how little he is vs some of the others

    He'll be deadly when he grows into him self as it's not easy getting young ones to bowl full and straight accurately. That with a bit of pace and he will be a handful



  • @Hooroo said in Dad advice sharing thread.:

    He'll be deadly when he grows into him self as it's not easy getting young ones to bowl full and straight accurately. That with a bit of pace and he will be a handful

    Last year and earlier this year he was actually bowling with a fair bit more pace but first couple of games this year he started trying to bowl too quick and throwing medium pace half trackers which are too easy to get on to. We've done a fair bit of net practice lately and hes been working on pitching it up as it so much harder for a batsmen to play unless they are confident enough to charge it and play a full toss which most kids aren't at that age.



  • @JK said in Dad advice sharing thread.:

    @JK said in Dad advice sharing thread.:

    @Paekakboyz said in Dad advice sharing thread.:

    @JK has jnr given any indication of what he'd prefer?

    Yeah he initially was keen to repeat U10 as bowling wont be as fast but he would also then need to deal with the shite bowling he encountered last year that sometime doesnt even land on the pitch!

    Anyway, since I've posted it looks like the 3 other lads in his team from last year are all keen to play under 11 (well thats what the parents say) so looks like we are going for that. Club said would apply for a dispensation from Auckland Cricket for them to play U11s BUT the kids would need to be available for Under 10 reps if selected

    Update....got that dispensation so the lad is playing up a grade in under 11s. 3rd game of the season and he picked up a hattick today and all of them were bowled. Slowest bowler in the team but pretty much always a Yorker or just short of and if you miss then he hits. Proud dad!!!

    Edit - vid of hattrick ball


    You can see how little he is vs some of the others

    Awesome. Hope you snagged the match ball and made a trophy out of it.



  • His batting looks to be getting better too now, I think mainly due to confidence. Got 26 off his 15 (max balls) on saturday with four nice 4's including a pullshot on a head high full toss (also no ball). An enjoyable watch



  • I think this is best placed into this thread: Professor Jonathan Haidt explains three of the six causes of the emergence of a new moral culture of “safetyism,” and how these elements have contributed to the attitudes of current college students.

    It's ~70mins long and the very, very short version is raise your kids to be anti-fragile. Let them play, fall, dust themselves off and grow.


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