Should the Crusaders change their name?
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If you’d like to make your thoughts known, I believe this link goes through to the survey research being carried out:
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Should the Crusaders change their name?:
@Siam said in Should the Crusaders change their name?:
Ok. Fair enough. Those horses trigger (boom!) my lived experiences of the crusades back in the day. For those of you that weren't there, it really was brutal. 12 hour work days, no overtime, no lunch breaks, sketchy internet access, no women in managerial positions.
Everytime I see a horse now I'm transported back to muddy battlefields, clanging swords and dysentery, but I guess if you weren't there you don't know.
I'm glad a rebranding will help me and others to heal
So the name was perfectly fine for 20 plus years, but is now untenable because an Australian shot 100 odd people in a Mosque?That makes zero sense.
Precisely. What Tew says is state mandated appeasement, repeated little by little, week by week, across the surrendering West.
I just read the Australian headline triumphantly announcing "... Super Rugby team bows to pressure on religious symbolism in the wake of the NZ mosque attacks" and it disgusts me.
Tew's and the Crusaders' business had no part to play before, during or after the killings.
Symbolism? It's hard to beat the debate in New York whether a symbolic victory temple should occupy the first best or the third best retail exposure position adjacent to the rebuilt World Square in the most profound "Get it upya!" of the decade.
Discussion on disallowing it altogether was shut down, but you blokes will be getting used to more of that from government yourselves, eh?
The quiet colonisation is moving along nicely.
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@Crucial said in Should the Crusaders change their name?:
I hope that a sensible outcome rather than a reactive one is found.
As I said earlier, I have no problem with rebranding by removing the imagery of killing from the brand but also think that keeping the name indicates that meanings change over time.As opposed to the positive and uplifting images of hurricanes and rebels no doubt
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@Siam said in Should the Crusaders change their name?:
@Crucial said in Should the Crusaders change their name?:
I hope that a sensible outcome rather than a reactive one is found.
As I said earlier, I have no problem with rebranding by removing the imagery of killing from the brand but also think that keeping the name indicates that meanings change over time.As opposed to the positive and uplifting images of hurricanes and rebels no doubt
Not to mention the Warriors.
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@Crucial said in Should the Crusaders change their name?:
I hope that a sensible outcome rather than a reactive one is found.
As I said earlier, I have no problem with rebranding by removing the imagery of killing from the brand but also think that keeping the name indicates that meanings change over time.I'd take the compromise at this point of losing the Knights, etc but keeping the name. It's pathetic that this is even a discussion.
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@Crucial said in Should the Crusaders change their name?:
I hope that a sensible outcome rather than a reactive one is found.
As I said earlier, I have no problem with rebranding by removing the imagery of killing from the brand but also think that keeping the name indicates that meanings change over time.Errr - I think, Crucial, that you will be wasting your time. The decision has been made.
I'm fairly sure the science of news reading / public announcements holds that to ameliorate a controversial decision first there must be a "soft launching" to lock it in. That was today, fronted by Tew to camouflage the government hiding behind the potted palms.
Then there is the dinky little survey for no good reason, other than to place some time between the steps - people get on with other things and stop thinking about it. The slag we had as prime minister used refer to that period of relative silence as a "national conversation".
The final phase is either a brief announcement on a Friday night while everyone is at the pub or a big splash with someone charismatic from government praising a courageous Tew for
bringing the people to heelhelping people heal, and someone recognisable in the background singing a ballad - such as Neil Finn with Don't Dream its Over.They would have several options shovel ready for an unscheduled final announcement, to capitalise on fortuitous circumstances - a freight train derailment or a Virgin flight losing a propeller blade or the First Beta Boy very publicly storming out of Government House in a huff when She complained about what he'd knocked up for dinner ... that sort of thing.
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NZH poll:
Should the Crusaders change their name after the Christchurch terror attacks
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/article.cfm?c_id=80&objectid=12218977
Option D) “Crusaders shouldn’t change a thing,” is currently leading poll at 63%
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Also we should not refer to TARANAKI as The Naki.
Radio NZ had a "spokesperson for the Muslim community" on this morning followed immediately by someone from Te Wananga saying Naki was offensive.
I think when you have a spokesperson on any subject then context should be given to their bona fides in terms of truly representing who they purport to speak for. Massive fail Radio NZ.
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@dogmeat said in Should the Crusaders change their name?:
Also we should not refer to TARANAKI as The Naki.
Radio NZ had a "spokesperson for the Muslim community" on this morning followed immediately by someone from Te Wananga saying Naki was offensive.
I think when you have a spokesperson on any subject then context should be given to their bona fides in terms of truly representing who they purport to speak for. Massive fail Radio NZ.
And here comes the slippery slope.
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@gt12 said in Should the Crusaders change their name?:
If you’d like to make your thoughts known, I believe this link goes through to the survey research being carried out:
There’s something in a name
Kind regards
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A rebranding of the name Crusaders is the most common theme I have heard this week....
I mean if the name and existing brand is apparently so offensive, will they ban wearing of old fan merch? It isnt good form to wear Nazi stuff, and we are lead to believe the Crusades are up there in terms of Muslim persecution.
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@taniwharugby said in Should the Crusaders change their name?:
A rebranding of the name Crusaders is the most common theme I have heard this week....
I mean if the name and existing brand is apparently so offensive, will they ban wearing of old fan merch? It isnt good form to wear Nazi stuff, and we are lead to believe the Crusades are up there in terms of Muslim persecution.
Don't give the PC Brigade ideas.