My Turn ... Running Down A Dream



  • @mooshld Fark me, that is a cracking time!! Awesome.

    My first short term aim is 6km in < 30 mins. I'm getting closer on good days.



  • @MajorRage honestly if you lose the weight you want to. You will be close enough to that.



  • Hold on. I'm 1cm shorter than you and 12kg heavier... umm I'm big boned!!

    Dude you might not love running but you've done half marathons and tick over some decent km's per week. At worst I'd say you have mild apathy for it ha ha.

    During the times I have been running fit and haven't had knee issues it has been awesome. There is something really enjoyable about being out and about under your own steam. Very cool to have @mooshld providing insight into how weight loss can help with speed increases (as in holy shit bro!!)

    I do give non/anti-gym folks a bit of jip about not finding the right combo of training, or not investing enough time to get it a genuine go. But ultimately you've got to find something you are either engaged with or can make yourself do, otherwise you won't keep it up.

    Look forward to hearing about your progress @MajorRage 🙂



  • @mooshld said in My Turn ... Running Down A Dream:

    @MajorRage

    106 was 2:06
    76 was 1:34

    both of those times are pretty fucking good, the fastest is really fucking good

    overachiever


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    @mooshld said in My Turn ... Running Down A Dream:

    @MajorRage

    106 was 2:06
    76 was 1:34

    That second time is insane.



  • I followed at @mooshld advice a couple of years ago after reading his journal on here and it worked a treat - focused on running lots of miles and eating healthier to achieve weight loss. I went from a 27 minute 5k at 92kgs to - only one time though - a sub 20 minute 5k at 79 kgs.

    I had been holding steady at 82 kgs for the last year or so, running three - four times a week, which doesn’t get me in trouble at work for being too fat (yearly checks start indicating metabolic syndrome for me above this - btw I’m 189cm tall - don’t get me started about Japan). However, since the boy was born, I’ve blown out to 86 and am only running once or twice a week.

    So this thread is nice - it gives me some motivation to think about how crap I’ve been and to get back out there again. I may occasionally highjack it if I get motivated enough to post any updates.

    After my stroke, my doctor isn’t so keen on me doing full marathons, but I may even look around for a half. If anyone wants to come to JP for a half, let me know and I’ll find one 🙂

    Enjoy it @MajorRage and do try to consider the weight steps - I found them brilliant.



  • @gt12 Kids are not very good for training



  • @canefan fuck no! and holy shit you need some time to train or refresh with rugrats!


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    @canefan said in My Turn ... Running Down A Dream:

    @gt12 Kids are not very good for training

    I used to use mine as weights back in the day. Can be great for weighted push-ups and military presses. Squats as well. Too big now though....
    As an aside, don't ever take that time for granted. It goes so quick and they'll soon be big smelly teens complaining about morning wood.



  • All good advice chaps, I know weight is the biggest issue, it’s also the hardest thing to deal with!

    One thing I’m interested in is what you should do in a run if you are either in the zone or not. Some runs I’m absolutely on it and will occasionally push myself further. Others I’m not at all but push myself to keep going. So the question is ... injuries aside, should you stick to a plan like glue, or deviate according to how you feel?



  • @gt12 said in My Turn ... Running Down A Dream:

    I followed at @mooshld advice a couple of years ago after reading his journal on here and it worked a treat - focused on running lots of miles and eating healthier to achieve weight loss. I went from a 27 minute 5k at 92kgs to - only one time though - a sub 20 minute 5k at 79 kgs.

    I had been holding steady at 82 kgs for the last year or so, running three - four times a week, which doesn’t get me in trouble at work for being too fat (yearly checks start indicating metabolic syndrome for me above this - btw I’m 189cm tall - don’t get me started about Japan). However, since the boy was born, I’ve blown out to 86 and am only running once or twice a week.

    So this thread is nice - it gives me some motivation to think about how crap I’ve been and to get back out there again. I may occasionally highjack it if I get motivated enough to post any updates.

    After my stroke, my doctor isn’t so keen on me doing full marathons, but I may even look around for a half. If anyone wants to come to JP for a half, let me know and I’ll find one 🙂

    Enjoy it @MajorRage and do try to consider the weight steps - I found them brilliant.

    If I was still in HK, for sure.

    Japan health checks are insane. Yet, I think they are the healthiest people alive ... so maybe something in it.

    189cm and 86 kg is hardly bad tho!!



  • @Rancid-Schnitzel said in My Turn ... Running Down A Dream:

    @canefan said in My Turn ... Running Down A Dream:

    @gt12 Kids are not very good for training

    I used to use mine as weights back in the day. Can be great for weighted push-ups and military presses. Squats as well. Too big now though....
    As an aside, don't ever take that time for granted. It goes so quick and they'll soon be big smelly teens complaining about morning wood.

    I'm really hoping you have boys.


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    @Catogrande said in My Turn ... Running Down A Dream:

    @Rancid-Schnitzel said in My Turn ... Running Down A Dream:

    @canefan said in My Turn ... Running Down A Dream:

    @gt12 Kids are not very good for training

    I used to use mine as weights back in the day. Can be great for weighted push-ups and military presses. Squats as well. Too big now though....
    As an aside, don't ever take that time for granted. It goes so quick and they'll soon be big smelly teens complaining about morning wood.

    I'm really hoping you have boys.

    Well they were assigned that gender at birth.



  • @MajorRage said in My Turn ... Running Down A Dream:

    @gt12 said in My Turn ... Running Down A Dream:

    I followed at @mooshld advice a couple of years ago after reading his journal on here and it worked a treat - focused on running lots of miles and eating healthier to achieve weight loss. I went from a 27 minute 5k at 92kgs to - only one time though - a sub 20 minute 5k at 79 kgs.

    I had been holding steady at 82 kgs for the last year or so, running three - four times a week, which doesn’t get me in trouble at work for being too fat (yearly checks start indicating metabolic syndrome for me above this - btw I’m 189cm tall - don’t get me started about Japan). However, since the boy was born, I’ve blown out to 86 and am only running once or twice a week.

    So this thread is nice - it gives me some motivation to think about how crap I’ve been and to get back out there again. I may occasionally highjack it if I get motivated enough to post any updates.

    After my stroke, my doctor isn’t so keen on me doing full marathons, but I may even look around for a half. If anyone wants to come to JP for a half, let me know and I’ll find one 🙂

    Enjoy it @MajorRage and do try to consider the weight steps - I found them brilliant.

    If I was still in HK, for sure.

    Japan health checks are insane. Yet, I think they are the healthiest people alive ... so maybe something in it.

    189cm and 86 kg is hardly bad tho!!

    Thats basically me minus 12-14kg and everyone knows I'm a fucken unit so pay that shit no mind.



  • @MN5 said in My Turn ... Running Down A Dream:

    @MajorRage said in My Turn ... Running Down A Dream:

    @gt12 said in My Turn ... Running Down A Dream:

    I followed at @mooshld advice a couple of years ago after reading his journal on here and it worked a treat - focused on running lots of miles and eating healthier to achieve weight loss. I went from a 27 minute 5k at 92kgs to - only one time though - a sub 20 minute 5k at 79 kgs.

    I had been holding steady at 82 kgs for the last year or so, running three - four times a week, which doesn’t get me in trouble at work for being too fat (yearly checks start indicating metabolic syndrome for me above this - btw I’m 189cm tall - don’t get me started about Japan). However, since the boy was born, I’ve blown out to 86 and am only running once or twice a week.

    So this thread is nice - it gives me some motivation to think about how crap I’ve been and to get back out there again. I may occasionally highjack it if I get motivated enough to post any updates.

    After my stroke, my doctor isn’t so keen on me doing full marathons, but I may even look around for a half. If anyone wants to come to JP for a half, let me know and I’ll find one 🙂

    Enjoy it @MajorRage and do try to consider the weight steps - I found them brilliant.

    If I was still in HK, for sure.

    Japan health checks are insane. Yet, I think they are the healthiest people alive ... so maybe something in it.

    189cm and 86 kg is hardly bad tho!!

    Thats basically me minus 12-14kg and everyone knows I'm a fucken unit so pay that shit no mind.

    Rather convoluted way to tell the forum that you are 189cm in height.

    Well done on being tall?



  • @MajorRage said in My Turn ... Running Down A Dream:

    @MN5 said in My Turn ... Running Down A Dream:

    @MajorRage said in My Turn ... Running Down A Dream:

    @gt12 said in My Turn ... Running Down A Dream:

    I followed at @mooshld advice a couple of years ago after reading his journal on here and it worked a treat - focused on running lots of miles and eating healthier to achieve weight loss. I went from a 27 minute 5k at 92kgs to - only one time though - a sub 20 minute 5k at 79 kgs.

    I had been holding steady at 82 kgs for the last year or so, running three - four times a week, which doesn’t get me in trouble at work for being too fat (yearly checks start indicating metabolic syndrome for me above this - btw I’m 189cm tall - don’t get me started about Japan). However, since the boy was born, I’ve blown out to 86 and am only running once or twice a week.

    So this thread is nice - it gives me some motivation to think about how crap I’ve been and to get back out there again. I may occasionally highjack it if I get motivated enough to post any updates.

    After my stroke, my doctor isn’t so keen on me doing full marathons, but I may even look around for a half. If anyone wants to come to JP for a half, let me know and I’ll find one 🙂

    Enjoy it @MajorRage and do try to consider the weight steps - I found them brilliant.

    If I was still in HK, for sure.

    Japan health checks are insane. Yet, I think they are the healthiest people alive ... so maybe something in it.

    189cm and 86 kg is hardly bad tho!!

    Thats basically me minus 12-14kg and everyone knows I'm a fucken unit so pay that shit no mind.

    Rather convoluted way to tell the forum that you are 189cm in height.

    Well done on being tall?

    190cm but who's counting.....



  • @MajorRage said in My Turn ... Running Down A Dream:

    All good advice chaps, I know weight is the biggest issue, it’s also the hardest thing to deal with!

    One thing I’m interested in is what you should do in a run if you are either in the zone or not. Some runs I’m absolutely on it and will occasionally push myself further. Others I’m not at all but push myself to keep going. So the question is ... injuries aside, should you stick to a plan like glue, or deviate according to how you feel?

    Personally I stick to a plan like glue. If I am feeling it, I have a good run and call it a day, I don't push it. But conversely if I am not feeling it I refuse to quit on a run because its in the plan.

    For me if I had the flexibility to add more on the good days I would feel I could take away on the bad days. But its the bad days where you get the most benefit.

    Its running when it sucks, when it hurts, and when you don't want to. You will need that mental strength during the marathon because the wall is fucking real.



  • Speaking of mental strength and pushing through pain barriers to run I am currently listening to "Cant hurt me" by David Goggins on audible.

    It is properly inspiring and worth listening to for just this kind of thing.

    Also the audio book has been supplemented by interviews with him in amongst chapters which really adds something.

    Cant reccomend it enough (if you look at the reviews you will see I am not alone)

    Seemed relevant to the discussion, seriously give it a listen. And if you do while on your runs it will be very hard to back off as it feels wrong when listening to his story.



  • Going to aim for Monday morning updates here of the previous week and plan for the week ahead.

    Mon: 6km, 34:04, 5:38 p/km
    Wed: 6km, 31:38, 5:14 p/km
    Fri: 7km, 37:55, 5:23 p/km (interval training)
    Sun: 11km, 1:01:44, 5:35 pace

    Friday interval 800m warm up, 1min, 2min, 3min, 5, 3, 2, 1 with half time in between resting. 800m cool down at the end. Blew out far too quick on the early sets and had to walk afterwards. On the longer ones found a better rhythm around 4:35 - 4:50 pace, flat the last 30 secs .. only had to walk a little bit. I need more work on these

    Sundays distance I was quite happy with. Had a dull headache all day from the night before, and finally roused the energy to do it around 4pm. Aim was for 55min 10k, then try and push the last km (its an ever so slight down hill) to aim for sub hour. Through 3km at 5:15 pace before started to lose my way. However, managed to keep every km under 6 mins, which I categorise as a mini-victory, so I'll take it!

    This weeks plan - only going for 3 runs this week, but will push for a decent length one this weekend:

    Tuesday - 7.5km, consistent pace, aim for no km > 5:40
    Thursday - 7.5km, interval. Probably 800m warm up / cool down (it's 800m from my house to a canal which I run along), then perhaps 6 x 800m fast / 200m slow
    Saturday - 15km, sub 1 hour 25 aim which is 5:40 pace

    Always interested in others runners thoughts on what I shuld tweak / change / aim for etc.



  • My only comment is that your warmup seems quite short. I can't say I would have broken much of a sweat after 800m. I normally go for 20 to 30 minutes before upping the pace. But sounds like you are in amongst it and have a plan. So stick with it and good luck.


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