Cricket: NZ vs England
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@Cyclops said in Cricket: NZ vs England:
It really is a disgrace how low Tim Southee's test average is. He should really be pushing 30 not 20.
ah, now it's summer!
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@Siam said in Cricket: NZ vs England:
Poms'll have to roll us in about less than 50 overs tomorrow to win.
If they do, all credit to them and we'll have to sing Led Zepps "Nobody's fault but mine" all the way to Perth.
Up to our best in Kane and Ross to complete the series win by batting the entire 1st session ( he types jinxingly!)
A few more of those jinxes please!
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@mariner4life said in Cricket: NZ vs England:
@Cyclops said in Cricket: NZ vs England:
It really is a disgrace how low Tim Southee's test average is. He should really be pushing 30 not 20.
ah, now it's summer!
The staples of a kiwi summer; The four B's
Beach, beers, BBQ's and bitching about Tim Southee's batting average.
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@Hooroo said in Cricket: NZ vs England:
I know this appears to be hindsight but I wasn't even slightly worried that we would lose this match.
Days gone by we would have capitulated but this team isn't that flaky team pre McCullum era
I doubt we'll ever truly rid ourselves of those shudders 😀
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Christ, how far ahead of every other Wicket keeper is Watling? Look at Parore and Smith by comparison
What was McCullum's record as a keeper?
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@gt12 said in Cricket: NZ vs England:
Christ, how far ahead of every other Wicket keeper is Watling? Look at Parore and Smith by comparison
What was McCullum's record as a keeper?
Pretty good, although the batting is not as good as when he was not keeper.
2803 runs in 52 matches, average 34.18, 5 centuries.
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@gt12 said in Cricket: NZ vs England:
Wow, so Watling is heads and shoulders in our top team then. Good on that man.
The only question you'd have to ask as the selector is whether you want Watling who will dig you out if your top order is in trouble or Baz coming in at 300/5 and torching a bowling attack that's been worn down.
For all normal purposes, Watling is a dream keeper. Almost like clockwork you can rely on him to dig us out of a hole. The only weakness is that he doesn't seem comfortable coming out when we're already in a dominant position. I think it doesn't suit his game and as a result of his selflessness he tries to play a different way to try and progress the game and in doesn't work for him.
For a side with an all time top 6, Baz just slips in because we're much less likely to need a rescue job. For any real selection, Watling is the man for the job.
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@Godder said in Cricket: NZ vs England
I'd pick Watling for a batting keeper, but if I was selecting a technical keeper with no regard to batting, I'd pick Smith.
I used to think upon those lines, but in the cold light of day Smith's keeping to spinners (as opposed to dibbly dobblies) was nothing better than average which was why Lees was always in the picture as an alternative. Watling is technically proficient enough to stand up to the medium pacers as he has, while his keeping in the sub-continent and UAE has been more than serviceable. For pure technical aptitude and athleticism, I'd actually choose Parore over Smith, because then you remove the fluffbunny factor.
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@Siam said in Cricket: NZ vs England:
I can't remember Baz ever not performing with gloves.
CWC 2003 Super Six elimination game against India.
I'm probably the biggest Baz knocker out there but he was always pretty solid with the gloves. He kept well to Vettori, and aside from Bond who he only kept to very early in his career he never really had to deal with anyone who bowled with any real pace or turn.
The late 00s, early 10s side would have been better served with him keeping more if his back allowed.