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  • Dirty bitch. Sleezing it with Gatland ...
    Haven't worked out if the rest of the article is click bait for the "permanently offended" or wishful thinking.
    But as for Aura ...
    ... she'll be back ... she always comes back ...

    Warren Gatland over Steve Hansen? Welsh website WalesOnline raises eyebrows with its choice
    Warren Gatland will test his coaching skills against Steve Hansen when Wales tour New Zealand in June.
    He may have led the All Blacks to World Cup victory, assisted them to another and been crowned World Rugby coach of the year three times, but Steve Hansen is still not as good as Wales counterpart Warren Gatland.
    All Blacks boss Steve Hansen was seen as lacking in X-factor compared to Wales counterpart Warren Gatland.
    At least that's the view of media outlet WalesOnline, which compared the Kiwi coaches ahead of Wales' three-test tour of New Zealand in June and a possible Gatland-Hansen match-up when the British Lions visit here in 2017.
    WalesOnline rated the two master mentors out of 10 in seven key categories, including experience, silverware, man-management, tactics, back-room staff, public persona and X-factor, and - surprisingly - Gatland came out on top 57-54.
    Plenty of weight was given to Gatland's three Six Nations triumphs and 2013 Lions series win, with Hansen edging the silverware category by just one point (9-8) despite his World Cup successes, trio of Rugby Championship titles, Bledisloe Cup dominance and individual accolades.
    The All Blacks boss, who coached Wales between 2002-04, was also seen to hold the advantage in tactics (9-8) and and back-room staff (9-7).
    However, former Ireland and Waikato coach Gatland took two-point wins in experience (9-7), public persona (8-6) and X-factor (8-6), while also edging man-management 9-8 to claim overall victory.
    The X-factor category is sure to raise plenty of eyebrows, particularly among Kiwi rugby fans.
    Hansen may have more talent to work with, but the All Blacks have gone to a new level since he took over from Sir Graham Henry in 2012.
    In 54 test matches under his watch, New Zealand have lost just three and drawn twice, while their ability to cope with pressure in tight games in particular a standout feature of Hansen's reign.
    However, WalesOnline had a different opinion.
    "Until the arrival of Eddie Jones into northern hemisphere rugby this season with Grand Slam England, not even Simon Cowell would quibble in crowning Gatland the X-factor king of the Six Nations Championship," the website side.
    "Often he has the media eating out his hands and waiting on his every word."Gatland has won enough big games and defied the odds on enough occasions to have a real aura about him. He definitely belongs to that elite echelon of coaches.
    "Hansen really doesn't do X-factor and probably thinks it's some kind of make-up manufacturer."
    Hansen holds a 2-0 lead in tests against Gatland having led the All Blacks to victories over Wales twice in Cardiff since 2010.
    Gatland, though, will have the chance to prove the critics right as he tries to end Wales' 63-year drought against the All Blacks with the first test in Auckland on June 11.



  • Difference is that any Aura around Shag extends around the team.
     
    If Gatland has an Aura he keeps it to himself along with his X-factor.
     
     
    The simple way of answering this is to ask 'Who would you prefer as the coach of the world's best team?'. We would all vote for Shag and the rest of the world for Gatland because it may increase our chances of being beaten.



  • I feel stupider having read that article. Whoever calculated those comparison numbers must have been smoking something pretty great at the time.



  • Complet pile of wank.
     
    Gatland has done well in the 6N no argument about that, but outside of that his record is pretty poor barring the Lions. Hansen has been there and pretty much done that all over. Just a crap article and I'd think that had Gatland bothered to read it he would be cringing.



  • Plenty of weight was given to Gatland's three Six Nations triumphs and 2013 Lions series win, with Hansen edging the silverware category by just one point (9-8) despite his World Cup successes, trio of Rugby Championship titles, Bledisloe Cup dominance and individual accolades.

    Gatland doesn't even deserve to be on the same page as Hansen when talking silverware, but then I guess if you weight things get a result you want...
     
    My sons U10 rugby team went unbeaten for 2.5 seasons, if I weight those seasons heavily, ignore the age grade they play, take into account the cattle he has to work with vs what I had, I am easily as good as Hansen!



  • It's walesonline - that tells you everything you need to know.



  • A welsh website over-rating it's rugby?  Well I never!
     
    Whatever next, a kiwi website doing the same!



  • I honestly couldn't give a shit if they want to talk up Gatland. He's done very well with Wales and it's great that they love him up there.



  • The article is written for a local audience, so take it with a large grain of salt.  If you want to compare apples with apples the only fair comparison is to look at Gatland's and Hansen's respective records with Wales.  Gatland wins there.



  • The article is written for a local audience, so take it with a large grain of salt.  If you want to compare apples with apples the only fair comparison is to look at Gatland's and Hansen's respective records with Wales.  Gatland wins there.

    Not really, the Wales of Gatland's time arguably owe a debt to the stuff that was implemented during Hansen's time.



  • She's back!



  • @bovidae and I think a player saying she is still around and therefore a threat carries more weight than a coach who tries to convince people she has gone...like telling your kids about the boogie monster!



  • @bovidae said in Aura watch:

    She's back!

    She never left.

    She's been at my place, we have a few beers or a glass of wine on a Saturday, listen to some anthems, talk about winning percentages, reminisce about Richie, that sort of thing. All very romantic.

    She does have an issue with Wayne Barnes, Eddie Jones, Clive Woodward, some waitress called Suzie, and several others who have tried to kill her, but she is alive and well. She has gone to see an Irish friend it seems but she will be back at mine before the 9th June.



  • @snowy

    It's reassuring to know that Aura has had a good off-season. I expect she'll be busy again this year and in top form come November!



  • Unfaithful cow been flirting with England ...

    "England are very close to completely losing their aura of invincibility, and are starting to head on a downward trajectory."



  • "Aura of invincibility" under Eddie Jones!? Fake news.



  • I recall their excellent 2001-2003 team. That seems a long time to be holding onto an aura of invincibility.

    Coming on top of successive Six Nations losses to Scotland, France and Ireland, Moore sees the looming tour of South Africa as a crucial period for the team before they return to polish their final push ahead of next year's World Cup in England.

    Wait, what?



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  • After sweeping all before them over the last year, and winning matches they deserved to lose, you'd have to say that Ireland are developing a bit of an aura ...

    If they can sweep the Aussies (which they have every chance of doing), then that will only be enhanced.



  • Eddie and Aura ?

    That relationship would never last