Bastille day truck crash



  • Christ , if it's terrorism we can be thankful the thing wasn't packed with explosives.



  • Its terrorism., the driver started shooting after thr crash and something similar happened at the Eiffel Tower
    http://m.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11675085



  • Fucken horrible, really hits home when these things occur in places you have visited



  • Hadn't the French just reduced thier threat level since the attacks



  • Incredibly enough guns aren't required to massacre dozens of innocent people.



  • You get the feeling that if ISIS claim this, something is going to have to give, and very very soon.



  • if they havent by now, it is unlikely to be a direct ISIS attack though is it?



  • Don't they normally wait 24 hours before claiming attacks?



  • Not sure what you do about heavy vehicle attacks like this though.



  • Bollards so people can freely congregate en masse.



  • #PrayforNice
     
    OK, being philosophical, do people interpret these slogans as meaning "Show solidarity", or are people actually being asked to pray?



  • Don't they normally wait 24 hours before claiming attacks?
    Typically they wait for the public declaration of allegiance to emerge - usually this is done by the perp by leaving a message online or with authorities in the lead up to the attack.
    Once the press announce that, they'll claim.



  • Bollards so people can freely congregate en masse.

    Yeah, but that is of limited use. EG there's bollards stopping anyone driving into Covent Garden piazza. Liecester Square etc, but you could easiliy get up a good head of steam & kill 100's in a truck down Oxford street, Regents street, Long Acre etc.
     
    They used to have fencing up at the corner in Oxford circus etc, but have taken it down because it makes pedestrian traffic flow better so any given Saturday you could come straight down Oxford street, cut the corner, kill 150, & carry on down the sidewalk on Regents street.
     
    There's pretty much zero way to defend againhst it bar banning all trucks from city centres



  • Typically they wait for the public declaration of allegiance to emerge - usually this is done by the perp by leaving a message online or with authorities in the lead up to the attack.
    Once the press announce that, they'll claim.

    Yeah, they don't seem to really coordinate any attacks on the west. They just hope their followers in western countries do something and then declare for ISIS so they can claim it.



  • but thats a little different to them co-ordinating it, like the attacks on Paris...they dont claim attacks that arent thiers, but will gladly accept someone who claims to have fought in thier name.



  • The guy was totally unknown to police and no one has claimed anything. Mood very sombre here. I'm heading down south now and the security at the airport is back to full armed guard.
    People here sick of prayers that do nothing.



  • Also nothing going on at the tower just a fire truck that caught fire. Alanis Morisette is being questioned about that incident.



  • The guy was totally unknown to police and no one has claimed anything. Mood very sombre here. I'm heading down south now and the security at the airport is back to full armed guard.People here sick of prayers that do nothing.

    Safe travels mooshld.
     
    That's the trouble with the thoughts and prayers brigade - action wins every time.



  • Pornhub have the tricolour on their banner which is nice.



  • I was in Nice the very next morning, absolute chaos as you would imagine. People waiting around looking very grim, presumably waiting on news of loved ones. The main promenade closed to traffic and a five minute journey took almost an hour. People in tears all over the place. All very sad.


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