All Blacks v France
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v France:
@antipodean said in All Blacks v France:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v France:
For the whole 'why take 3' argument
The only try we constructed was Lakai's in the first 10 minutes (Roigard's was a piece of individual brilliance)
It's a five metre lineout with maul. If we're not confident being able to do that with a better lineout than theirs, heaven help us.
In what world do the ABs kick to 5 metres out from the line from a penalty near halfway?
The one where Beauden isn't doing the kick to touch.
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@Mr-Fish be nice if you are right. There's definitely some deadwood in there and I think it's a lot more than just those two. I've watched the AB's for over 50 years and I can't recall such a toothless, directionless team since 1998. We will improve I have no doubt, but I do not see the talent in this team we need to take on the best in the world so we need to hope there's some youngsters coming through. 10 is a massive problem for me.
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I think it's time for the Barrett brothers gimmick to be put to bed. Scott isn't the answer at captain, Beauden is out of date by a couple of seasons and Jordie barely gets a pass mark.
The 3 points with 5 to go is a pathetic call.
Also, anybody know what Havilli has added to this tour? Instagram shows me he's doing nothing but playing golf? Probably best, if he were playing he'd be throwing intercept passes.
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@sparky said in All Blacks v France:
Wallace Sititi and Tupou Vaii have been the players of the season. Tamati Williams and Asafa Aumua have taken strides forward. Caleb Clarke and Tyrell Lomax have gone okay.
But apart from that it doesn't feel like we are going anywhere. A rather disappointing season.
You forgot we made the Irish cry. Or was that whinge.
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v France:
For the whole 'why take 3' argument
The only try we constructed was Lakai's in the first 10 minutes (Roigard's was a piece of individual brilliance)
You miss what the scrum did immediately prior?
But I agree, have no issue with taking the points.
Someone was talking about the Bok's self belief. Well the ABs backed their self belief in their ability to score again.
With 6 mins left it was an ok call.
Was throwing the dice panicking?
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@cgrant said in All Blacks v France:
Jordie Barrett's injury was very influential. His power in midfield had the French defense guessing. AJ Lam should have been on the bench instead of ALB. This year, young guys coming in thanks to injuries to "top" players have been a success (Sititi, Tosi, Lakai). So why not Lam ? ALB is so average.
yes I think ALB apart from one game hasn't shown enough impact.
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@DaGrubster said in All Blacks v France:
Disappointing to lose that after so much territory and possession.
One thing we need to improve on hugely is once we score points, we invariably let the other side score next so we don’t build scoreboard pressure.
We are still a work in progress and are really looking for the 1-2% improvement to win these types of games.
We are building, we are not perfect, we are good at times, but we need to get better and be more ruthless.
I like to think we are building and thought at half time we'd kicked on from Lansdowne Road, but the same dumb play came back to haunt us.
Fuck knows what it is, but there seems to be some sort of death wish or mind virus which affects us all too often. This despite some real talent coming thru or coming of age.
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v France:
@booboo said in All Blacks v France:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v France:
The guy who got shafted was Narawa
Barely saw the field for the ABs this year then discarded
Was he injured out of ABXV?
He got dropped between the July series and The Rugby Championship
Of course Reece didn't....
From the ABs, but what was story with ABXV? Not selected or injured? (Can't remember.)
If the former that is a mistake.
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Fuck JK, ask the kid on debut if we should have gone the corner? What do you expect him to say?
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks v France:
@sparky said in All Blacks v France:
Wallace Sititi and Tupou Vaii have been the players of the season. Tamati Williams and Asafa Aumua have taken strides forward. Caleb Clarke and Tyrell Lomax have gone okay.
But apart from that it doesn't feel like we are going anywhere. A rather disappointing season.
DMac has gone ok with more experience. Not just Vaa'i but also Patty T and Darry-we are now ok with locks. Lakai (does anyone want to go back to Cane, EB or Jacobson?). Tosi for bench-shaking impact, In the backs Cam R, Proctor and Love. In the future possibly Hotham as backup if Ratima doesn't work out.
Add Lord and Holland (I'm on the Dutchie's bandwagon).
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@booboo said in All Blacks v France:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v France:
@booboo said in All Blacks v France:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v France:
The guy who got shafted was Narawa
Barely saw the field for the ABs this year then discarded
Was he injured out of ABXV?
He got dropped between the July series and The Rugby Championship
Of course Reece didn't....
From the ABs, but what was story with ABXV? Not selected or injured? (Can't remember.)
If the former that is a mistake.
Yeah injured I believe
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Increasingly noticeable for me how 10 and 15 aren't prepared in Super rugby in certain areas for the international level, such as kicking.
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@booboo said in All Blacks v France:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks v France:
@sparky said in All Blacks v France:
Wallace Sititi and Tupou Vaii have been the players of the season. Tamati Williams and Asafa Aumua have taken strides forward. Caleb Clarke and Tyrell Lomax have gone okay.
But apart from that it doesn't feel like we are going anywhere. A rather disappointing season.
DMac has gone ok with more experience. Not just Vaa'i but also Patty T and Darry-we are now ok with locks. Lakai (does anyone want to go back to Cane, EB or Jacobson?). Tosi for bench-shaking impact, In the backs Cam R, Proctor and Love. In the future possibly Hotham as backup if Ratima doesn't work out.
Add Lord and Holland (I'm on the Dutchie's bandwagon).
it is a big Dutch bandwagon. Holland looks an exciting prospect.
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@booboo said in All Blacks v France:
@LagerLout said in All Blacks v France:
@Billy-Tell Well, I think we are. We met an off colour Irish side and didn't have to do much to beat them, England we simply got lucky. Robertson has been let off the hook the first couple of tests. I see some massive problems with this squad and the coaching/calls. I hope I'm wrong, but it's not looking good.
Bollocks. We'd have been unlucky to lose.
I see definite development and I'm not seeing mid-Foster era ineffectiveness.
Player stocks and development I agree.
Mental side of things and consistency is still poor.
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We're amazing at attacking everywhere from the field, until we get to 10 metres out from the tryline.
Seem to be able to get to the opposition tryline with EASE which has been the massive improvement for us since the Foster era.But once we get there we seem to NEVER be able to convert possession there into a Try.
We should have been up by 20 in the first half (I still believe with Dmac we would have been so am still fuming about that selection decision..).
Robertson needs to work on that during the off season to get this team humming.
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12: Jordie, Lam, or Proctor I'd have before DH. Jordie is more of a weapon at 15 and can be (emergency level) back up at 10-I don't see DH's utility value.
