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    Very interesting. Looking at the back row I always feel it's a shame that (probably in part due to his successor) that Josh Kronfeld is so often forgotten when it comes to looking at great loose forwards.

    Not saying (of course) that he would merit selection over RM just I feel like he is something of a forgotten man and doesn't even enter into conversations. Ofc Mccaw-Jones-ZB is the best loose forwards trio.

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    @nonpartizan I think Kronfeld, like Jones before him and McCaw after him were atop the tree kinda redefined the role of a 7.

    That was a pretty long period where we almost always had the best 7 in the game.

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    @taniwharugby said in Classic Rugby Videos:

    @nonpartizan I think Kronfeld, like Jones before him and McCaw after him were atop the tree kinda redefined the role of a 7.

    That was a pretty long period where we almost always had the best 7 in the game.

    Absolutely. It's such a neat bookend that Jones started his career in 87 and a world cup win Richie ended his in 15 with a world cup win and their combined careers with Josh being the overlap from 95-01 account for the best part of three decades.

    Cardio wise I thought Kronfeld was super human.... In that really good period from 95-97 on any highlights video he seems to be never more than a couple of yards away from the ball.

    Josh on his anti nuclear test headgear.

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    Thoroughly enjoyed this, the documentary of the 1989 tour of Wales and Ireland.

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    @nonpartizan said in Classic Rugby Videos:

    Thoroughly enjoyed this, the documentary of the 1989 tour of Wales and Ireland.

    There's a couple more out there, I think there's on called Blood, Sweet and Touring which is a French tour, and theres a 1991 one. Also a good one if you can find it is tv programme of the 1992 tour to South Africa which goes on tour but then also has old ABs in NZ discussing the rivalry with the Saffas.

    I'll have a search for the others after work today.

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    @Nepia said in Classic Rugby Videos:

    @nonpartizan said in Classic Rugby Videos:

    Thoroughly enjoyed this, the documentary of the 1989 tour of Wales and Ireland.

    There's a couple more out there, I think there's on called Blood, Sweet and Touring which is a French tour, and theres a 1991 one. Also a good one if you can find it is tv programme of the 1992 tour to South Africa which goes on tour but then also has old ABs in NZ discussing the rivalry with the Saffas.

    I'll have a search for the others after work today.

    Thanks. That one was very good, some of the match footage is very good and the behind the scenes stuff is fun.

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    Sir Bryan Williams interview. Enjoyed every minute of this, a very kind, humble and generous soul.

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    @nonpartizan said in Classic Rugby Videos:

    @Nepia said in Classic Rugby Videos:

    @nonpartizan said in Classic Rugby Videos:

    Thoroughly enjoyed this, the documentary of the 1989 tour of Wales and Ireland.

    There's a couple more out there, I think there's on called Blood, Sweet and Touring which is a French tour, and theres a 1991 one. Also a good one if you can find it is tv programme of the 1992 tour to South Africa which goes on tour but then also has old ABs in NZ discussing the rivalry with the Saffas.

    I'll have a search for the others after work today.

    Thanks. That one was very good, some of the match footage is very good and the behind the scenes stuff is fun.

    Despite the caption, the full vid is available to watch now.

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    The South African one - 1992 return from isolation:

    All Blacks for Africa - A Black and White Issue | Television | NZ On Screen

    All Blacks for Africa - A Black and White Issue | Television | NZ On Screen

    All Blacks for Africa - A Black and White Issue - This 1992 TV One documentary follows the All Blacks on their first post-apartheid visit to South Africa. The footy tour tomfoolery of producer Ric Salizzo’s earlier All Blacks docos is subbed off for reflections on politics and sport from players —...

    It's in 5 parts, along the bottom of the video.

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    @Nepia said in Classic Rugby Videos:

    @nonpartizan said in Classic Rugby Videos:

    @Nepia said in Classic Rugby Videos:

    @nonpartizan said in Classic Rugby Videos:

    Thoroughly enjoyed this, the documentary of the 1989 tour of Wales and Ireland.

    There's a couple more out there, I think there's on called Blood, Sweet and Touring which is a French tour, and theres a 1991 one. Also a good one if you can find it is tv programme of the 1992 tour to South Africa which goes on tour but then also has old ABs in NZ discussing the rivalry with the Saffas.

    I'll have a search for the others after work today.

    Thanks. That one was very good, some of the match footage is very good and the behind the scenes stuff is fun.

    Despite the caption, the full vid is available to watch now.

    Thanks, just finished watching it. These are absolutely superb documentaries. It funny how Michael Jones loves to play his guitar, Bryan Williams said he loved to take his on tour too. So much good behind the scenes footage, it's the little things, when JK is coaching Zinzan how to play the sax and ZB gets it right and says "that's the bugger!".

    I will watch that South Africa one when I get in from work tomorrow.

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    @nonpartizan said in Classic Rugby Videos:

    @Nepia said in Classic Rugby Videos:

    @nonpartizan said in Classic Rugby Videos:

    @Nepia said in Classic Rugby Videos:

    @nonpartizan said in Classic Rugby Videos:

    Thoroughly enjoyed this, the documentary of the 1989 tour of Wales and Ireland.

    There's a couple more out there, I think there's on called Blood, Sweet and Touring which is a French tour, and theres a 1991 one. Also a good one if you can find it is tv programme of the 1992 tour to South Africa which goes on tour but then also has old ABs in NZ discussing the rivalry with the Saffas.

    I'll have a search for the others after work today.

    Thanks. That one was very good, some of the match footage is very good and the behind the scenes stuff is fun.

    Despite the caption, the full vid is available to watch now.

    Thanks, just finished watching it. These are absolutely superb documentaries. It funny how Michael Jones loves to play his guitar, Bryan Williams said he loved to take his on tour too. So much good behind the scenes footage, it's the little things, when JK is coaching Zinzan how to play the sax and ZB gets it right and says "that's the bugger!".

    I will watch that South Africa one when I get in from work tomorrow.

    AS an FYI the South Africa one, IIRC, is more a general doco than the other two. (Just so you're not disappointed).

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    @Nepia said in Classic Rugby Videos:

    @nonpartizan said in Classic Rugby Videos:

    @Nepia said in Classic Rugby Videos:

    @nonpartizan said in Classic Rugby Videos:

    @Nepia said in Classic Rugby Videos:

    @nonpartizan said in Classic Rugby Videos:

    Thoroughly enjoyed this, the documentary of the 1989 tour of Wales and Ireland.

    There's a couple more out there, I think there's on called Blood, Sweet and Touring which is a French tour, and theres a 1991 one. Also a good one if you can find it is tv programme of the 1992 tour to South Africa which goes on tour but then also has old ABs in NZ discussing the rivalry with the Saffas.

    I'll have a search for the others after work today.

    Thanks. That one was very good, some of the match footage is very good and the behind the scenes stuff is fun.

    Despite the caption, the full vid is available to watch now.

    Thanks, just finished watching it. These are absolutely superb documentaries. It funny how Michael Jones loves to play his guitar, Bryan Williams said he loved to take his on tour too. So much good behind the scenes footage, it's the little things, when JK is coaching Zinzan how to play the sax and ZB gets it right and says "that's the bugger!".

    I will watch that South Africa one when I get in from work tomorrow.

    AS an FYI the South Africa one, IIRC, is more a general doco than the other two. (Just so you're not disappointed).

    Thank you Nepia, I still have not had a chance to watch this but shall this week.

    I actually fell down a rabbit hole and watched this interview of Wayne Shelford then began checking out some of the other interviews on this channel, including one on Michael Jones but also non rugby ones. The presenter seems very knowledgeable rugby fan and poses very thoughtful questions.

    I really enjoy listening to Buck, I find him likeable and a pretty good storyteller. It is clear that he brought good leadership to the All Blacks based on what his father taught him and the regimen he was accustomed to in the NZ Navy. I'm not sure if kiwis would consider him a national treasure but he comes across to me as a straight talking no nonsense guy. Seems like inter provincial politics saw him get kicked out of the All Blacks.

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    @nonpartizan said in Classic Rugby Videos:

    I'm not sure if kiwis would consider him a national treasure

    There's still a big power junction box on the sidewalk in Rotorua - fully painted with a mural of Buck leading the haka, and the demand "Bring Back Buck"

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    @Kruse said in Classic Rugby Videos:

    @nonpartizan said in Classic Rugby Videos:

    I'm not sure if kiwis would consider him a national treasure

    There's still a big power junction box on the sidewalk in Rotorua - fully painted with a mural of Buck leading the haka, and the demand "Bring Back Buck"

    That is cool. All being well I will be in Rotorua in July so I would love to check that out.

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    @nonpartizan said in Classic Rugby Videos:

    @Kruse said in Classic Rugby Videos:

    @nonpartizan said in Classic Rugby Videos:

    I'm not sure if kiwis would consider him a national treasure

    There's still a big power junction box on the sidewalk in Rotorua - fully painted with a mural of Buck leading the haka, and the demand "Bring Back Buck"

    That is cool. All being well I will be in Rotorua in July so I would love to check that out.

    I may have overstated "big" somewhat - it's one of those sidewalk junction boxes, waist-height. Just past the school on Otanga Road.
    It does bring a small smile to my dial every time I ride past it when visiting sister/niece/nephews nearby.
    Was about to post a screenshot from Google-Street-View, but that would ruin the suspense/disappointment of your highlight of visiting Rotorua.

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    @Kruse said in Classic Rugby Videos:

    @nonpartizan said in Classic Rugby Videos:

    @Kruse said in Classic Rugby Videos:

    @nonpartizan said in Classic Rugby Videos:

    I'm not sure if kiwis would consider him a national treasure

    There's still a big power junction box on the sidewalk in Rotorua - fully painted with a mural of Buck leading the haka, and the demand "Bring Back Buck"

    That is cool. All being well I will be in Rotorua in July so I would love to check that out.

    I may have overstated "big" somewhat - it's one of those sidewalk junction boxes, waist-height. Just past the school on Otanga Road.
    It does bring a small smile to my dial every time I ride past it when visiting sister/niece/nephews nearby.
    Was about to post a screenshot from Google-Street-View, but that would ruin the suspense/disappointment of your highlight of visiting Rotorua.

    Curiosity got the better of me - I looked it up ... I like it.

    Buck leading the haka is such an iconic image. The tape and those protruding teeth, you could never confuse him with someone else. What a legend. 👍

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