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@KiwiPie said in Other Cricket:
Bert Sutcliffe's 385 really is a crazy scorecard
Crikey. Has there ever been a case when a single batsman has scored more than three times what his teammates got combined ?
In another quirk he isn’t even the best batsman who ever lived who was called Bert Sutcliffe…..
https://www.espncricinfo.com/cricketers/herbert-sutcliffe-20413
This guy got a triple ton as well, plus a shitload of other runs.
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@KiwiPie said in Other Cricket:
There is also Reid's 296 which was the first class record for sixes in an innings for decades. 230 in boundaries.
My old history teacher Wilf Haskell there with an unfortunate duck.
Apparently he holds the record for the biggest six ever hit at the Basin though.
( he may have embellished this himself somewhat......)
It was pretty cool to look up an almanack and see his details and realise his cricket yarns weren't all complete bullshit though !
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If you were to pick an all time fast scoring NZ ODI XI it would be this - using the highest strike rate in each position in the batting order (min 10 innings in that position). 3 wicket keepers to choose from and bowling from Boult, Southee, Adams, Anderson, Michael Bracewell, Ravindra. Slowest scorers in brackets.
Ravindra 110.73 (Howarth 45.84)
Munro 108.20 (Edgar 49.66)
B. McCullum 85.28 (Sinclair 56.39)
Mitchell 95.54 (Reid 50.93)
Anderson 134.31 (Burgess 56.25)
Ronchi 123.57 (Vincent 53.56)
M Bracewell 123.52 (Harris 66.98)
Smith 111.40 (Larsen 54.63)
Adams 122.04 (Pringle 57.53)
Southee 103.03 (Morrison 43.37)
Boult 78.22 (O'Connor 27.84) -
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@nzzp said in Other Cricket:
@KiwiPie looks like they'll either get 450, or be rolled for under a hundy.
Andre Adams was criminally underused by NZ. Not sure why - personality clashes?
From his Wiki page
Adams debuted at the highest level for New Zealand in March 2002, but a bout of back injuries on the West Indies tour of 2002 allowed Jacob Oram to move ahead of him in the pecking order, limiting him to one Test. Following that, question marks were raised about his attitude.and
However, this was overshadowed by his one-month suspension for grabbing and shaking the helmet of Central Districts batsman Bevan Griggs.
(presumably it was his batting helmet ....)He would have made a fortune playing the T20 leagues in the Chris Jordan role if he had been 10 years younger.
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@KiwiPie said in Other Cricket:
If you were to pick an all time fast scoring NZ ODI XI it would be this - using the highest strike rate in each position in the batting order (min 10 innings in that position). 3 wicket keepers to choose from and bowling from Boult, Southee, Adams, Anderson, Michael Bracewell, Ravindra. Slowest scorers in brackets.
Ravindra 110.73 (Howarth 45.84)
Munro 108.20 (Edgar 49.66)
B. McCullum 85.28 (Sinclair 56.39)
Mitchell 95.54 (Reid 50.93)
Anderson 134.31 (Burgess 56.25)
Ronchi 123.57 (Vincent 53.56)
M Bracewell 123.52 (Harris 66.98)
Smith 111.40 (Larsen 54.63)
Adams 122.04 (Pringle 57.53)
Southee 103.03 (Morrison 43.37)
Boult 78.22 (O'Connor 27.84)Jeez, not often McCullum's the plodder that everyone else bats around.
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@Cyclops yeah, I imagine his strike rate for his last year or 2 was probably closer to 150 though. Damn he was exciting to watch open the batting at that time.
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@KiwiPie said in Other Cricket:
Bert Sutcliffe's 385 really is a crazy scorecard
From memory that was the highest first class score by a left handed batsman as well..until that 'so so' batsman from the West Indies did ok..
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@No-Quarter said in Other Cricket:
@Cyclops yeah, I imagine his strike rate for his last year or 2 was probably closer to 150 though. Damn he was exciting to watch open the batting at that time.
From the start of 2015 he played 27 ODIs and his strike rate was 154.91.
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hey @Chris any insight in to whether or not Ussie just wanted the weekend off to go to the motor racing, not really expecting Qld to need him again this season?
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@mariner4life said in Other Cricket:
hey @Chris any insight in to whether or not Ussie just wanted the weekend off to go to the motor racing, not really expecting Qld to need him again this season?
Yeah phantom hammy Qld cricket pretty pissed off,
I can’t say too much but no record of any injury.
That I know for certain.
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@MN5 Pommy social media site aimed at lads under 25.
Can't take it seriously when they include Dhoni. Must have a lot of Indian subscribers.
Despite their records I wouldn't have Kallis or Lara in a top 10 either. As for Iron Bottom - almost as much of a joke as Dhoni.
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@dogmeat said in Other Cricket:
@MN5 Pommy social media site aimed at lads under 25.
Can't take it seriously when they include Dhoni. Must have a lot of Indian subscribers.
Despite their records I wouldn't have Kallis or Lara in a top 10 either. As for Iron Bottom - almost as much of a joke as Dhoni.
You’re dead to me……..
In terms of a mercurial individual I can’t think of anyone better than Lara ( number one on this list the obvious exception)
Beefy is worth a mention for the first half of his career in which he was pretty untouchable. He should have retired around 1987 or so though……
Dhoni is the obvious ridiculous call here….
Also the complete and utter lack of fast bowlers.
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@MN5 said in Other Cricket:
You’re dead to me……..
It's top 10 of all time. It could be there aren't sufficient superlatives to describe a player and he still misses out.
I think I have found where ladsbible got that list from. The BBC did a poll to coincide with the 2019 CWC (shame it was cancelled)
If you look at the list below its a complete lift
Listeners of the Beebs Asian Networkvoted for their favourite from a shortlist of 30 players compiled by a panel of experts, including Radio 1 DJ and co-host of 5 Live’s Tailenders Greg James, former English cricketer Isa Guha, IPL host Shonali Nagrani, and Asian Network’s Noreen Khan.
Hardly surprising then that
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nearly half come from the subcontinent
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apart from Bradman and Sobers all played at least some of their career during the last 30 years or so
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there's three Poms that you could definitely argue against
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In comparison here's Wisden's 5 players of the Century.
The Don
Garfield Sobers
Jack Hobbs
Shane Warne
Viv RichardsPretty sure those 5 are locked in, hard to argue with any of those
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@dogmeat said in Other Cricket:
@MN5 said in Other Cricket:
You’re dead to me……..
It's top 10 of all time. It could be there aren't sufficient superlatives to describe a player and he still misses out.
I think I have found where ladsbible got that list from. The BBC did a poll to coincide with the 2019 CWC (shame it was cancelled)
If you look at the list below its a complete lift
Listeners of the Beebs Asian Networkvoted for their favourite from a shortlist of 30 players compiled by a panel of experts, including Radio 1 DJ and co-host of 5 Live’s Tailenders Greg James, former English cricketer Isa Guha, IPL host Shonali Nagrani, and Asian Network’s Noreen Khan.
Hardly surprising then that
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nearly half come from the subcontinent
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apart from Bradman and Sobers all played at least some of their career during the last 30 years or so
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there's three Poms that you could definitely argue against
Well yeah, Cook and Anderson impress with longevity more than anything.
I'm a Beefy fan, his final stats don't do justice to how amazing he was early in his career but it is hard to gauge if he should be there or not.
Dhoni ( previously mentioned ), Kapil Dev, Chris Gayle and Jayawardene are taking the piss.
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Wilf Haskell - Wikipedia
