All Blacks 2025

Mauss

@KiwiInLondon said in All Blacks 2025:

Finua at 6 and this is his chance to be consistent.

I do like the idea of just giving Finau the 6 jersey for a prolonged period of time and see whether he can make it work. It seems like a logical investment to make, he seems one of the few players at the moment who can exert physical dominance.

Not sure why Sititi and Savea wouldn't work in the same backrow? I thought they went well together during the November tour and having both on the field does create a lot of space for the attack, I feel.

Bovidae

@Mauss

I've liked what I've seen from Savea when he has played 7 for MP. He has shown that he can still play a tighter game, and most importantly put some pressure on opposition ball at the breakdown. Slowing down the opposition ball has been a weakness of the ABs (leading to offsides and YCs), and is something Papalii doesn't do enough for the ABs when at 7. That's also the appeal of giving Kirifi a go.

Sititi could then play more of a roaming role from no.8. It is his best position.

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African Monkey

@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:

@Mauss

I've liked what I've seen from Savea when he has played 7 for MP. He has shown that he can still play a tighter game, and most importantly put some pressure on opposition ball at the breakdown. Slowing down the opposition ball has been a weakness of the ABs (leading to offsides and YCs), and is something Papalii doesn't do enough for the ABs when at 7. That's also the appeal of giving Kirifi a go.

Sititi could then play more of a roaming role from no.8. It is his best position.

I never thought I would, but I am starting to warm to the idea of chucking Savea at 7 again. I prefer him as an 8, but with no current standout 7 around, Savea could be worth chucking there as we have options at 6 and 8.

KiwiMurph

It will be interesting where Sititi plays for Chiefs when he comes back in a few weeks

sparky

What is the Right Wing depth chart after Mark Telea goes offshore?

Landers92

@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

What is the Right Wing depth chart after Mark Telea goes offshore?

Will Jordan, Sevu Reece, Chay Fihaki, Macca Springer, Dallas McLeod.

Jet

@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

What is the Right Wing depth chart after Mark Telea goes offshore?

When is the young fella from Moana available?

2027?

pourfasse

Reece is not a good player.

Jet

@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

What is the Right Wing depth chart after Mark Telea goes offshore?

Should Telea be picked this year or should we sack him off and go with someone who will be here in the medium to long term?

I think in a World Cup year you should cobble together the best available 30 man squad regardless of contract situations etc.

But I feel in the other 3 years of a cycle you should give these guys the Charlie Piutau treatment.

Clear out your locker son. You’re done.

Thanks for the memories.

Landers92

@Landers92 said in All Blacks 2025:

@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

What is the Right Wing depth chart after Mark Telea goes offshore?

Will Jordan, Sevu Reece, Chay Fihaki, Macca Springer, Dallas McLeod.

In all seriousness. Below would be my order for the 14 jersey. It’s quite a short list when you think about what quality 14’s are actually out there.

Jordan(If BB is 15).
Tangitau/Reece
Tangitau/Reece
Narawa

I wouldn’t mind seeing Lam(yes he’s been playing 12 but still a good winger)or ENS(when fit) get a crack.

Unfortunately I think Razor will see Fihaki ahead of Lam, ENS, Narawa and potentially Tangitau.

antipodean

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@African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2025:

For all of the criticism that comes Rieko Ioane's way, he sure as hell covers a lot of ground on defence. Yeah, I see the criticisms with him on attack and yes, probably attacks better on the wing, but he's an elite defender.

He does work hard on defence I agree, but his decision making in complex scenarios isn't elite - I think his scramble is right up there, tho

As has been pointed out, using him as a constant crash ball option also doesn't suit him.

Doesn't Jordie or Havili or ALB, but the ABs have been doing it for years - you'd kinda have hoped Razor might have changed that.

He's not Levi Aumua.

Neither is Levi Aumua, this year!

Good post.

RI's D has come on in leaps and bounds and last year he put in some outstanding stuff. But apart from that, he hasn't really kicked on and we really need to explore options at 13. Robertson needs to be a bit bolder.

Or develop a gameplan that permits Rieko to use his undoubted strengths. At the moment they may as well play another flanker. Using your centre to do almost nothing on attack but crashball off pop passes on the defensive line is fucking dumb.

mariner4life

Innovative.
Systems.

MN5

@Landers92 said in All Blacks 2025:

@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

What is the Right Wing depth chart after Mark Telea goes offshore?

Will Jordan, Sevu Reece, Chay Fihaki, Macca Springer, Dallas McLeod.

Thank goodness for Crusaders flair on the wing. NZ Rugby owes them everything

booboo

Naholo is left wing huh?

Wing could be a door for someone like love, similar to where BB or Ben Smith started. Just saying.

Chris

@booboo said in All Blacks 2025:

Naholo is left wing huh?

Wing could be a door for someone like love, similar to where BB or Ben Smith started. Just saying.

Yep so is Springer

voodoo

@reprobate said in All Blacks 2025:

I haven't been watching Jordie up north where by all accounts he's been good (in what positions?), but I haven't seen much of him creating space for others in the last couple of seasons.

When has he ever done this???