All Blacks 2025
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@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2025:
@nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:
You seriously get people like JK who's analysis is 'the boys will really be up for it this week, I'm picking them'. Great that people like it, but it's an entertainment show, not a rugby show.
JK who famously said he had never heard of Rivez Reihana before his Super Rugby debut despite Reihana playing 3 seasons of NPC prior to that.
Phenomenal human being, terrible analyst, mixed bag as a coach
Handy winger in his playing days too
Sheesh, that's a bit of an insult.
He was fucking outstanding.
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@Nepia said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2025:
@nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:
You seriously get people like JK who's analysis is 'the boys will really be up for it this week, I'm picking them'. Great that people like it, but it's an entertainment show, not a rugby show.
JK who famously said he had never heard of Rivez Reihana before his Super Rugby debut despite Reihana playing 3 seasons of NPC prior to that.
Phenomenal human being, terrible analyst, mixed bag as a coach
Handy winger in his playing days too
Sheesh, that's a bit of an insult.
He was fucking outstanding.
just being understated. JK is the man. My absolute favourite AB of his era ( zinny a close second and daylight to the rest )
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@Nepia said in All Blacks 2025:
@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2025:
I am a bit of a nerd, and tend to watch rugby shows when I get chance, and genuinely don't see much difference with any of them. They all have ex players on, who I take it know a reasonable amount of what is required to play at high level etc, doesn't make then right or wrong, just another opinion. Funny they use ex players, because quite often, they quite often don't follow game real closely, just their own teams etc. I got same impression watching them in UK last year , or watching Aussie ones etc. I just take notice of what parts of show I find interesting. Had mate in Aus who followed both NRL and AFL, said they couldn't put up with their shows either.
I used to watch all the rugby and the league shows as late as a few years ago, now I don't watch any. I think I've just moved on from them. I get my fix for that from here and would rather use my other watching time for scripted shows etc.
Yep fair enough too mate, just taste etc. I hardly watch scripted shows these days (don't know why, none really get interest) but enjoy rugby shows as I find I get an interesting gem every now and then, much like on here. Even a most rugbt forums tend to be waste of time, I haunt a few (lot of time being retired), but definitely find this one best. Plenty I don't agree with but find in general most have really good or interesting views,
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Intrigued for the thoughts of some non Highlanders fans last night. I thought with the lights shining, de Groot was excellent, Holland was the best lock on the field, and Tavatavanawai was superb. Fakatava was also excellent even if not as impactful as Roigard. Feel all four should be in the ABs squad?
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@frugby I agree about Holland, he reminds me so much of Sam W, he really contests on opposition ball in lineout, and generally plays like a tight lock should, De Groot had a good game, mind he was past due. Fakatava needs a decent body of work as yet. but good to see them plaing well. TT might well be close too, depends where they see him playing.
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@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:
@frugby Fakatava probably just misses out. But the other three must be there.
I can live with Fakatava missing out if they stick with Hotham, but I think he has been highly impressive in a crap team. Feels like the perfect bench halfback to me.
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Thought Fakatava was very good. Holland has been in decent form all season but played well, as did Tavatavanawai and Tele'a. JRK is in good form given he's been out for so long and could be a good option for NZ in the outside backs.
Love, Proctor and Roigard were the stand-outs for the Hurricanes.
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Big TT reminds a bit of Ardie in the way he plays his own position. To select TT the ABs would need to change the way 12 plays. He is not exactly a traditional 12, and if he is combined with Rieko how fear for our ability to put others in space. His biggest asset, and it is very bloody useful, is the way he goes looking for turn overs. He hovers behind the ruck looking for his chance in much the same way Kirifi does. Those two could end up getting in each other's way if selected together.
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From a Canes perspective I thought TT, Fakatava, Tele’a and JRK caused problems for us all night. Whether it was running over players or being able to scramble effectively I thought those four players were the best on the park for the Landers. Holland and Dunshea were also very good at killing our lineout which stopped a lot of our momentum. De Groot also deserves a mention, he probably had one of his better games for a while.
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Fakatava's passing wasn't great at times. When the Highlanders were going for a second quick try he threw out some shocking passes which really stopped any momentum, and eventually led to a breakdown penalty. The one to Tele'a is an example. Of course, Roigard misfired with a couple of wide passes too.
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I don't know. They have so different qualities and styles of play that a comparison would be odd. In this peculiar game, I think Tele'a was the most influential. He is an attacking weapon that the Highlanders have sorely lacked in recent times. -
@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:
@frugby Fakatava probably just misses out. But the other three must be there.
Roigard hasn't been stand-out this year and has been a bit meh at times. Hopefully he'll click in before the Tests
Not too worried. We seem to have reasonable options at 9.
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Scooter should just hand over the captaincy to Ardie now.
