Beaver's all time NZ Super sides
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@antipodean said in Beaver's all time NZ Super sides:
@mariner4life said in Beaver's all time NZ Super sides:
Marty Holah is the best 7 for the Chiefs, sorry Sam.
Feels wrong not having Jonno Gibbes in the team either.
During those years you won all those comps..?
if that's the qualifying factor there are going to be some very weird Hurricanes and Highlanders teams.
And that's before you add in that Sam Cane was the debuty for Lats in at least one of those title seasons.
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Rhys Duggan for life!
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@antipodean said in Beaver's all time NZ Super sides:
Blues:
I'd swap which side of the scrum Brown and Woodcock are on.
Notable he's also included Rieko at centre.
Keeping Kaino out is a massive mistake.E Clarke and then daylight for the 13 jersey based on Super form.
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@Nepia said in Beaver's all time NZ Super sides:
@Bovidae said in Beaver's all time NZ Super sides:
TKB at halfback
Damn, how did I forget him when I was trying to think who should replace Leonard????
Wearing your Pies cap again and your obvious selection is Brad Weber
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Kevin Senio has to be close, his pass accuracy was insane
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@mariner4life said in Beaver's all time NZ Super sides:
@antipodean said in Beaver's all time NZ Super sides:
@mariner4life said in Beaver's all time NZ Super sides:
Marty Holah is the best 7 for the Chiefs, sorry Sam.
Feels wrong not having Jonno Gibbes in the team either.
During those years you won all those comps..?
if that's the qualifying factor there are going to be some very weird Hurricanes and Highlanders teams.
And that's before you add in that Sam Cane was the debuty for Lats in at least one of those title seasons.
As I see it, people tend to reminisce on the players when they were most emotionally invested in the team, likely tied to when they played the most attractive football, even if the wins didn't necessarily accrue silverware.
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@bayimports said in Beaver's all time NZ Super sides:
Kevin Senio has to be close, his pass accuracy was insane
left us to play for the Crusaders. Immediately disqualified for life
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@antipodean said in Beaver's all time NZ Super sides:
@mariner4life said in Beaver's all time NZ Super sides:
@antipodean said in Beaver's all time NZ Super sides:
@mariner4life said in Beaver's all time NZ Super sides:
Marty Holah is the best 7 for the Chiefs, sorry Sam.
Feels wrong not having Jonno Gibbes in the team either.
During those years you won all those comps..?
if that's the qualifying factor there are going to be some very weird Hurricanes and Highlanders teams.
And that's before you add in that Sam Cane was the debuty for Lats in at least one of those title seasons.
As I see it, people tend to reminisce on the players when they were most emotionally invested in the team, likely tied to when they played the most attractive football, even if the wins didn't necessarily accrue silverware.
cool story.
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@mariner4life said in Beaver's all time NZ Super sides:
@bayimports said in Beaver's all time NZ Super sides:
Kevin Senio has to be close, his pass accuracy was insane
left us to play for the Crusaders. Immediately disqualified for life
true didnt play many games either, but this doesn't appear to be necessarily on picked on what you delivered for the Chiefs
edit: if it was Lats should be above your Holah selection
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In all seriousness Senio doesnt deserve to be in all time XV, I would have thought though what impact you had on the Chiefs should count.
Latimer, Elliot, ALB, Gibbes, Weber should be close. No doubt Ian Jones one of NZs greatest locks but Craig Clarke probably more prominent for the Chiefs
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@MN5 said in Beaver's all time NZ Super sides:
Jeremy Thrush for Paul Tito……
…..and I know he’s Jonah but can he really make two teams ? Savea or Jane for the Canes instead of him
Jonah all day, he played the most games for the Canes so we'll take him.
I'd also have Lomax, Thrush and Rodney over Tialata, Tito and Tiatia
In saying that, the Pig and the Fish is the best named locking combo in NZ.
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@Canes4life said in Beaver's all time NZ Super sides:
@MN5 said in Beaver's all time NZ Super sides:
Jeremy Thrush for Paul Tito……
…..and I know he’s Jonah but can he really make two teams ? Savea or Jane for the Canes instead of him
Jonah all day, he played the most games for the Canes so we'll take him
Google confirms you are correct and of course the Canes would take him but he won two Super titles with the Blues so the point I'm making is if they claim him then it seems a bit silly he is an option for the Canes too.
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@MN5 said in Beaver's all time NZ Super sides:
@Canes4life said in Beaver's all time NZ Super sides:
@MN5 said in Beaver's all time NZ Super sides:
Jeremy Thrush for Paul Tito……
…..and I know he’s Jonah but can he really make two teams ? Savea or Jane for the Canes instead of him
Jonah all day, he played the most games for the Canes so we'll take him
Google confirms you are correct and of course the Canes would take him but he won two Super titles with the Blues so the point I'm making is if they claim him then it seems a bit silly he is an option for the Canes too.
Not really, he played for both sides so can be selected for both teams. Same with the likes of Mils, but Beaver ended up going with Dmac.
Cory wasn't a left winger so you can count him out, while Julian Savea fluffed the 2015 final because he had tits for hands, so he's out.
You can't break up that Lomu, Umaga and Cullen back three either. That was the hay day of Hurricane's outside backs.
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@Higgins said in Beaver's all time NZ Super sides:
@Nepia said in Beaver's all time NZ Super sides:
@Bovidae said in Beaver's all time NZ Super sides:
TKB at halfback
Damn, how did I forget him when I was trying to think who should replace Leonard????
Wearing your Pies cap again and your obvious selection is Brad Weber
It was ...
But in my heart of hearts I know TKB is the guy.
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@Canes4life said in Beaver's all time NZ Super sides:
@MN5 said in Beaver's all time NZ Super sides:
@Canes4life said in Beaver's all time NZ Super sides:
@MN5 said in Beaver's all time NZ Super sides:
Jeremy Thrush for Paul Tito……
…..and I know he’s Jonah but can he really make two teams ? Savea or Jane for the Canes instead of him
Jonah all day, he played the most games for the Canes so we'll take him
Google confirms you are correct and of course the Canes would take him but he won two Super titles with the Blues so the point I'm making is if they claim him then it seems a bit silly he is an option for the Canes too.
Not really, he played for both sides so can be selected for both teams. Same with the likes of Mils, but Beaver ended up going with Dmac.
Cory wasn't a left winger so you can count him out, while Julian Savea fluffed the 2015 final because he had tits for hands, so he's out.
You can't break up that Lomu, Umaga and Cullen back three either. That was the hay day of Hurricane's outside backs.
Absolutely, I never missed a game in those days.
But the Canes didn't win games when it counted even when those three were at their best.
So based on that logic when he selects his Crusaders XV Caleb Ralph and Scott Hamilton are shoe ins.
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@MN5 said in Beaver's all time NZ Super sides:
@Canes4life said in Beaver's all time NZ Super sides:
@MN5 said in Beaver's all time NZ Super sides:
@Canes4life said in Beaver's all time NZ Super sides:
@MN5 said in Beaver's all time NZ Super sides:
Jeremy Thrush for Paul Tito……
…..and I know he’s Jonah but can he really make two teams ? Savea or Jane for the Canes instead of him
Jonah all day, he played the most games for the Canes so we'll take him
Google confirms you are correct and of course the Canes would take him but he won two Super titles with the Blues so the point I'm making is if they claim him then it seems a bit silly he is an option for the Canes too.
Not really, he played for both sides so can be selected for both teams. Same with the likes of Mils, but Beaver ended up going with Dmac.
Cory wasn't a left winger so you can count him out, while Julian Savea fluffed the 2015 final because he had tits for hands, so he's out.
You can't break up that Lomu, Umaga and Cullen back three either. That was the hay day of Hurricane's outside backs.
Absolutely, I never missed a game in those days.
But the Canes didn't win games when it counted even when those three were at their best.
So based on that logic when he selects his Crusaders XV Caleb Ralph and Scott Hamilton are shoe ins.
It's not about titles, if that was the case, the Canes ultimate XV would be their 2016 side which ironically lacked quite a few house-hold names.
Plus the Hurricanes had no tight five then, that's why they couldn't win anything. Imagine the damage that back three could have had if they had a dominant forward pack infront of them...
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@Canes4life said in Beaver's all time NZ Super sides:
@MN5 said in Beaver's all time NZ Super sides:
@Canes4life said in Beaver's all time NZ Super sides:
@MN5 said in Beaver's all time NZ Super sides:
@Canes4life said in Beaver's all time NZ Super sides:
@MN5 said in Beaver's all time NZ Super sides:
Jeremy Thrush for Paul Tito……
…..and I know he’s Jonah but can he really make two teams ? Savea or Jane for the Canes instead of him
Jonah all day, he played the most games for the Canes so we'll take him
Google confirms you are correct and of course the Canes would take him but he won two Super titles with the Blues so the point I'm making is if they claim him then it seems a bit silly he is an option for the Canes too.
Not really, he played for both sides so can be selected for both teams. Same with the likes of Mils, but Beaver ended up going with Dmac.
Cory wasn't a left winger so you can count him out, while Julian Savea fluffed the 2015 final because he had tits for hands, so he's out.
You can't break up that Lomu, Umaga and Cullen back three either. That was the hay day of Hurricane's outside backs.
Absolutely, I never missed a game in those days.
But the Canes didn't win games when it counted even when those three were at their best.
So based on that logic when he selects his Crusaders XV Caleb Ralph and Scott Hamilton are shoe ins.
It's not about titles, if that was the case, the Canes ultimate XV would be their 2016 side which ironically lacked quite a few house-hold names.
Plus the Hurricanes had no tight five then, that's why they couldn't win anything. Imagine the damage that back three could have had if they had a dominant forward pack infront of them...
Sure did. Loads of names I've completely forgotten nowadays.
But the point is Beavers teams seem a strange mix of Super Rugby stalwarts ( Tito, Leonard ) vs All Blacks who perhaps didn't shine as much at Super level ( Ioane, Ian Jones )
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@MN5 said in Beaver's all time NZ Super sides:
@Canes4life said in Beaver's all time NZ Super sides:
@MN5 said in Beaver's all time NZ Super sides:
@Canes4life said in Beaver's all time NZ Super sides:
@MN5 said in Beaver's all time NZ Super sides:
@Canes4life said in Beaver's all time NZ Super sides:
@MN5 said in Beaver's all time NZ Super sides:
Jeremy Thrush for Paul Tito……
…..and I know he’s Jonah but can he really make two teams ? Savea or Jane for the Canes instead of him
Jonah all day, he played the most games for the Canes so we'll take him
Google confirms you are correct and of course the Canes would take him but he won two Super titles with the Blues so the point I'm making is if they claim him then it seems a bit silly he is an option for the Canes too.
Not really, he played for both sides so can be selected for both teams. Same with the likes of Mils, but Beaver ended up going with Dmac.
Cory wasn't a left winger so you can count him out, while Julian Savea fluffed the 2015 final because he had tits for hands, so he's out.
You can't break up that Lomu, Umaga and Cullen back three either. That was the hay day of Hurricane's outside backs.
Absolutely, I never missed a game in those days.
But the Canes didn't win games when it counted even when those three were at their best.
So based on that logic when he selects his Crusaders XV Caleb Ralph and Scott Hamilton are shoe ins.
It's not about titles, if that was the case, the Canes ultimate XV would be their 2016 side which ironically lacked quite a few house-hold names.
Plus the Hurricanes had no tight five then, that's why they couldn't win anything. Imagine the damage that back three could have had if they had a dominant forward pack infront of them...
Sure did. Loads of names I've completely forgotten nowadays.
But the point is Beavers teams seem a strange mix of Super Rugby stalwarts ( Tito, Leonard ) vs All Blacks who perhaps didn't shine as much at Super level ( Ioane, Ian Jones )
Yeah it's purely opinion based, that's what makes it a good debate.
I loved the story he told about Aled de Malmanche. Apparently he had asthma so to get ready for a season he would tape his mouth closed and run the hills so he could increase his lung capacity. Apparently, the strongest hooker Beaver had ever seen. So, there are selections like that where Beaver has picked guys based on his own experiences over time.
