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    Why wouldn't a Sititi-Savea-Sotutu back row work at Test level?

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    @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

    Why wouldn't a Sititi-Savea-Sotutu back row work at Test level?

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    @sparky 💯 i have said it before and i will say it again a loose forward trio of Savea,Sititi and Sotutu would be one of the most skilkful ball trio going around

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    @Steven-Harris I would have thought the French Series would be an ideal one to try it at least.

    The skills of our best players is the point of difference to other top international sides IMHO.

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    @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

    Why wouldn't a Sititi-Savea-Sotutu back row work at Test level?

    At least give it a go ffs

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    @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

    Why wouldn't a Sititi-Savea-Sotutu back row work at Test level?

    It certainly could, depending on game plan - and particularly if you used a couple of big volume work rate guys like Holland, Newell in the tight. And depends on the use of bench loosies too.
    I would quite like to see what Sotutu could do if he were told to go hard for 40. He still contributes very effectively in key moments at the end of games, but he doesn't have the workrate of some others over that 80 minutes, might be pacing himself somewhat?

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    @reprobate said in All Blacks 2025:

    @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

    Why wouldn't a Sititi-Savea-Sotutu back row work at Test level?

    It certainly could, depending on game plan - and particularly if you used a couple of big volume work rate guys like Holland, Newell in the tight. And depends on the use of bench loosies too.
    I would quite like to see what Sotutu could do if he were told to go hard for 40. He still contributes very effectively in key moments at the end of games, but he doesn't have the workrate of some others over that 80 minutes, might be pacing himself somewhat?

    As the saffas have shown, who cares? If he can give 40 minutes of impact better than some guys who play 80, let him empty the tank and get his sub on

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    @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

    Why wouldn't a Sititi-Savea-Sotutu back row work at Test level?

    Would provide some nice alliteration that’s for sure, the likes of which we haven’t seen since the Killer Bs ( Beattie, Barclay and Brown ) played for Scotland.

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    @reprobate said in All Blacks 2025:

    @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

    Why wouldn't a Sititi-Savea-Sotutu back row work at Test level?

    It certainly could, depending on game plan - and particularly if you used a couple of big volume work rate guys like Holland, Newell in the tight. And depends on the use of bench loosies too.
    I would quite like to see what Sotutu could do if he were told to go hard for 40. He still contributes very effectively in key moments at the end of games, but he doesn't have the workrate of some others over that 80 minutes, might be pacing himself somewhat?

    Sotutu generally has excellent durability over the season. His workrate game to game hasn't been as high as other but he was in the top 5 for a lot of stats across the whole season last year for totals.

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    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2025:

    @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

    Why wouldn't a Sititi-Savea-Sotutu back row work at Test level?

    At least give it a go ffs

    I worry about our lineout.
    I know Sotutu isn't terrible and Sititi can be used.
    If we have Vaii's workrate at lock that's a good thing, right? But, you add Barrett as the other lock and suddenly we have five hybrids from 4-7.

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    @gt12 said in All Blacks 2025:

    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2025:

    @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

    Why wouldn't a Sititi-Savea-Sotutu back row work at Test level?

    At least give it a go ffs

    I worry about our lineout.
    I know Sotutu isn't terrible and Sititi can be used.
    If we have Vaii's workrate at lock that's a good thing, right? But, you add Barrett as the other lock and suddenly we have five hybrids from 4-7.

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    @gt12 said in All Blacks 2025:

    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2025:

    @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

    Why wouldn't a Sititi-Savea-Sotutu back row work at Test level?

    At least give it a go ffs

    I worry about our lineout.
    I know Sotutu isn't terrible and Sititi can be used.
    If we have Vaii's workrate at lock that's a good thing, right? But, you add Barrett as the other lock and suddenly we have five hybrids from 4-7.

    Barrett is the guy in that lineout list who doesn't really fit the job requirements properly in my opinion. He isn't a particularly good lineout lock, Sotutu is pretty good for a loosie, and Sititi is fine as a secondary loosie target.

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    @gt12 said in All Blacks 2025:

    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2025:

    @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

    Why wouldn't a Sititi-Savea-Sotutu back row work at Test level?

    At least give it a go ffs

    I worry about our lineout.
    I know Sotutu isn't terrible and Sititi can be used.
    If we have Vaii's workrate at lock that's a good thing, right? But, you add Barrett as the other lock and suddenly we have five hybrids from 4-7.

    Sotutu won the most lineouts of all NZ players last year in SR. The Blues didn't use him as much this year but he is an excellent lineout operator.

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    Good posts.

    Yeah, actually the more I think about it, the more I'm starting to think that if we have two good locks this isn't the issue.

    And, that's a great point about Sotutu. It arguably makes it better than the other options around.

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    @brodean said in All Blacks 2025:

    @gt12 said in All Blacks 2025:

    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2025:

    @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

    Why wouldn't a Sititi-Savea-Sotutu back row work at Test level?

    At least give it a go ffs

    I worry about our lineout.
    I know Sotutu isn't terrible and Sititi can be used.
    If we have Vaii's workrate at lock that's a good thing, right? But, you add Barrett as the other lock and suddenly we have five hybrids from 4-7.

    Sotutu won the most lineouts of all NZ players last year in SR. The Blues didn't use him as much this year but he is an excellent lineout operator.

    Long arms and good aerial skills.

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    I don't see SB as a hybrid. If he isn't playing as one of the top locks or doesn't balance lineout weakness elsewhere in his game then choose someone who can.

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    @Duluth said in All Blacks 2025:

    @brodean said in All Blacks 2025:

    @gt12 said in All Blacks 2025:

    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2025:

    @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

    Why wouldn't a Sititi-Savea-Sotutu back row work at Test level?

    At least give it a go ffs

    I worry about our lineout.
    I know Sotutu isn't terrible and Sititi can be used.
    If we have Vaii's workrate at lock that's a good thing, right? But, you add Barrett as the other lock and suddenly we have five hybrids from 4-7.

    Sotutu won the most lineouts of all NZ players last year in SR. The Blues didn't use him as much this year but he is an excellent lineout operator.

    Long arms and good aerial skills.

    And he uses those long arms really well in mauls too.

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    It's disappointing how conservative NZ coaches have become. Going back to Christie over Funaki. Going for Cameron over Love at 10.

    Over the last 5+ years NZ coaches are preferring experienced journeymen over actual talent and ability

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    Papali'i is the best cleaner in NZ rugby and I hope he's picked for the ABs.

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    @Steven-Harris said in All Blacks 2025:

    @sparky 💯 i have said it before and i will say it again a loose forward trio of Savea,Sititi and Sotutu would be one of the most skilkful ball trio going around

    The three S’s would be an unfortunste name for the trio

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