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    Papali'i is the best cleaner in NZ rugby and I hope he's picked for the ABs.

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    @Steven-Harris said in All Blacks 2025:

    @sparky 💯 i have said it before and i will say it again a loose forward trio of Savea,Sititi and Sotutu would be one of the most skilkful ball trio going around

    The three S’s would be an unfortunste name for the trio

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    @brodean Nick Bishop had some comments on him that he's shown his carrying ability at test level in the past, but with the Blues he's used very strictly to tackle and clean. Limits his turnover opportunities too.

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    @Tim said in All Blacks 2025:

    @brodean Nick Bishop had some comments on him that he's shown his carrying ability at test level in the past, but with the Blues he's used very strictly to tackle and clean. Limits his turnover opportunities too.

    That's probably a fair comment but without his cleans we lose that game last night. He allows us to retain possession for long periods when we needed too. That's how the last RWC final was played and that's how it was when we won 2011.

    He's also faster getting to the ball on breakouts compared to Blackadder who has no 4th or 5th gear.

    According to those opta stats his running impact is high as a percentage. When he runs he has a high impact.

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    @Tim said in All Blacks 2025:

    @brodean Nick Bishop had some comments on him that he's shown his carrying ability at test level in the past, but with the Blues he's used very strictly to tackle and clean. Limits his turnover opportunities too.

    I can't believe that people log onto here and proceed to bash the Bishop publicly.

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    @sparky well don't trust that south african too much. He is still a patriot.

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    Cleanouts are critical, as the Canes found out to their cost last night. Being given a limited but very important task, and performing that well for the good of the team and resulting in victory? Sounds like good coaching and good player performance to me

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    2025 Qualifying Finals

    2025 Qualifying Finals

    Looking at the match pack stats for loose forwards this season:

    Defenders Beaten ( carries ) :
    36 Lio-Willie (143)
    22 Sotutu (131)
    23 Kirifi (125)
    18 Lakai (168)
    16 Papali'i (56)
    15 Iose (74)
    10 Finau (79)
    9 Parker (70)
    2 Blackadder (65)

    Defenders Beaten per carry:
    0.28 Papali'i
    0.25 Lio-Willie
    0.2 Iose
    0.18 Kirifi
    0.17 Sotutu
    0.13 Finau
    0.13 Parker
    0.11 Lakai
    0.03 Blackadder

    ( Sititi not in the match pack)

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    @brodean where do you access that?

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    @canefan Short memories. This time last year the same people were bitching and moaning about Sititi being picked over Sotutu, how did that turn out? I think i will back the AB coaches over silverfern couch selectors...

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    @Wapiti said in All Blacks 2025:

    @canefan Short memories. This time last year the same people were bitching and moaning about Sititi being picked over Sotutu, how did that turn out? I think i will back the AB coaches over silverfern couch selectors...

    What you are not addressing is that it doesn't have to be Sotutu vs Sititi.

    You can pick both in the squad.

    Instead we end up with these versatile/hybrid loosies that leave you wanting more.

    At loosie we have Sititi, Savea and then a whole bunch of just dudes.

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    @KiwiMurph dudes that are all much of a muchness , and that don't even get to play. Surely it's better to pick different horses for courses?

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    @Wapiti said in All Blacks 2025:

    @brodean where do you access that?

    Link is in the post.

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    @Wapiti said in All Blacks 2025:

    @canefan Short memories. This time last year the same people were bitching and moaning about Sititi being picked over Sotutu, how did that turn out? I think i will back the AB coaches over silverfern couch selectors...

    Sotutu never got a chance to show his wares for the ABs though did he?

    Sotutu was a better 8 than both Parker and Sititi last night.

    It wasn't actually a great year for the ABs last year and while Sititi had some good games we didn't actually win against the South Africa and France who have the tougher packs compared to the rest.

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    Let's just hope the weight they put on finals footy last year applies this year.

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    @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

    Rieko can cover wing....

    Rieko is a winger

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    I estimate the current mood on here for AB success in 2025 as the highest it's been for 6-8 years.

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    Savea 7 Sititi 8 DMac locked in at 10 Proctor 13 and Rieko wing would all help the cause

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    @Wapiti said in All Blacks 2025:

    @canefan Short memories. This time last year the same people were bitching and moaning about Sititi being picked over Sotutu, how did that turn out? I think i will back the AB coaches over silverfern couch selectors...

    I think people had every right to be up in arms about Sotutu's non selection, and yes, they got it right with Sititi.

    Also, this is a forum lol. People on Here are gonna express their opinions rightly or wrongly. A lot of the time selectors get it wrong too.

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    @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2025:

    @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

    Rieko can cover wing....

    Rieko is a winger

    Exactly

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