All Blacks 2025
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@george33 i reckon Sititi did that injury against the Highlanders in the last round of regular season , he looked in a lot of discomfort and it was’nt a surprise to see him starting off the bench against the Blues in the first round of the playoffs.
I expected a bit more impact from Sititi in the finals series but this now puts a few things in perspective
Good chance we may not see Sititi,Newall or Williams against the French given the injuries they are carrying great opportunity for others -
@Steven-Harris George Bower and Christian Leo Willie big ins.
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@antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:
Maybe AB 10 expectations are a bit high. We have 4 candidates (I'm not counting Perofeta), and none are Dan Carter. But they'd have a good chance of leading other international sides. Just pick the best options balanced with an eye to the future!
Precisely. In Love and Reihana we can see options worth developing as opposed to sticking with the two failed candidates we've got. Where's the harm in seeing how they progress? The two incumbents aren't getting any better and we're losing games as a result.
The ceiling for DMac and BB is set. In the case of BB, his best years are behind him. RM is a pipe dream and not getting any younger either. They need to be there, as they are the best we have. But we would be smart to have an eye on the near future, and work out who can take us forward at 10
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@steelpotato said in All Blacks 2025:
I'm fairly amazed at all the drums beating for Carter. International back 3 needs aerial prowess. He is going to be a massive defensive liability if picked.
Yeah - I picked him in my squad earlier in the week, but after last night I've kind of revised that.
But, I also see people wanting to discard Reece a bit earlier in the thread - and others saying Caleb Clarke has had a poor season.
Makes you wonder who will get picked on the wing? For once we're looking pretty shallow there.
So @chchfanatic could well be right that they're thinking to push Rieko out there.
@george33 I reckon AJ is a good chance as a wing that can cover midfield. I don't like his chances as much a pure midfielder - Rieko, Proctor, Jordie, Tupaea, Havili and Timoci all in that mix.
(n.b. Big Leicester's Toulon got knocked out in France last night - he'll presumably be arriving on a plane at some point in the not too distant future).
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@Chris-B said in All Blacks 2025:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2025:
@antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:
There's a lot of straw men in this thread. Has anyone anointed Reihana as the answer?
you are spot on, people are saying he maybe an option in the future, the more options we have the better.
I see several people saying pick him for the squad now.
Barrett, McKenzie, Love, Reihana.
They're only going to pick three of them. If they pick Reihana, who misses out? (That's not actually a question for you - I agree, he's an option for the future) - but, I agree with Steven Harris - it would be a huge surprise if he gets picked tomorrow. Maybe a candidate for the EOYT, but again there would be the question of who misses out if everyone is fit.
Just pick Barrett as a fullback only. 10s are McKenzie, Love, Reihana. It's such a key position that we should be developing multiple players there.
Though releasing someone to actual play some footy for the Maori etc would make sense too. -
@Landers92 just caught wind Fabien Holland is a lock in , not really a surprise for mine
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@reprobate But, Beaudy is the incumbent starting first five?
And from what I've seen in the past few weeks it will be a bit surprising if he's not starting the first test vs France.
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@DMX said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
@brodean oh well that's Jordie cleared of brain farts then. That's the only one.
Someone mention goalposts?
Found them!
Jordie has had quiet games, not shockers,
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@Steven-Harris does Finau make the cut, I'm not so sure now think Blackadder has jumped ahead.
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@Chris-B said in All Blacks 2025:
@reprobate But, Beaudy is the incumbent starting first five?
And from what I've seen in the past few weeks it will be a bit surprising if he's not starting the first test vs France.
Yeah but he kicks all our ball away and has been doing it for years. At some point we need to move on and blood the young players.
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:
@Chris-B said in All Blacks 2025:
@reprobate But, Beaudy is the incumbent starting first five?
And from what I've seen in the past few weeks it will be a bit surprising if he's not starting the first test vs France.
Yeah but he kicks all our ball away and has been doing it for years. At some point we need to move on and blood the young players.
Surely Razor can shorten his leash, just as Reihana was given a pretty small task list for the Saders?
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:
@Chris-B said in All Blacks 2025:
@reprobate But, Beaudy is the incumbent starting first five?
And from what I've seen in the past few weeks it will be a bit surprising if he's not starting the first test vs France.
Yeah but he kicks all our ball away and has been doing it for years. At some point we need to move on and blood the young players.
It's a test series, we move on and blood new players when they as good or better.
And add Reihana had good game last night but anyone picking any player on a couple of good games (or bad ones) isn't thinking. Form over time is surely more important -
Well, I reckon Test 1 we'll see 10. BB 23. DMac
Test 2. 10. BB 23. DMac
Test 3. All going well (i.e. series in the bank) 10. DMac 23. Love -
@Steven-Harris said in All Blacks 2025:
@Landers92 just caught wind Fabien Holland is a lock in , not really a surprise for mine
With Darry and Lord out of commission it would almost be a surprise if they didn't take the chance to pick him.
Seems likely to have the highest ceiling (literally) of the next band of contenders.
