All Blacks 2025
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@canefan said in All Blacks 2025:
He would be a fringe fill in, who might get some garbage time in a meaningless game that would then rule him ineligible to play for England, or anyone else. Keen?
It's an opportunity to represent NZ. Against a side that keeps beating us recently, B team or not. He's not going to get a better opportunity here.
But I don't actually know what he is thinking, I don't have the extra-sensory talents of some on here and I don't know if the coaches have even mentioned him recently but they'd have something interesting to say I suspect.All I can say is that it would be great to pick players who are actually fit to play.
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@nonpartizan said in All Blacks 2025:
Didn't Sotutu already turn down a call up in 2024? I probably read it here but I was under the impression that he was just biding his time until eligible for England.
All Blacks forwards coach Jason Ryan reveals deciding factor in Sititi's selection
The All Blacks forwards coach was blown away by one performance from the Chiefs No 8.
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That's cool that he's named after William Wallace
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:
@nonpartizan said in All Blacks 2025:
Didn't Sotutu already turn down a call up in 2024? I probably read it here but I was under the impression that he was just biding his time until eligible for England.
All Blacks forwards coach Jason Ryan reveals deciding factor in Sititi's selection
The All Blacks forwards coach was blown away by one performance from the Chiefs No 8.
Hoskins Sotutu breaks silence on rumoured England switch and claims Scott Robertson snub 'nothing new'
Hoskins Sotutu has opened up on his continued All Blacks snub and what his future may hold with the powerhouse back-row being linked with a Test switch.
This is where I read up on his England eligibility - as soon as November this year.
From the tone of his comments it seems like he doesn't think he will be (or has been) given a fair shot to make the team and there's not much incentive to give up England eligibility just to hold the tackle bags at a few training camps and warm the bench.
I'm not sure how much he would feature in Englands plans either but I suppose his agent will be trying to determine that and what the market is for him in Europe this (NH) summer.
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I think you've read too much into his comments. They come across as quite humble to me.
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@brodean said in All Blacks 2025:
I think you've read too much into his comments. They come across as quite humble to me.
FS, not saying he is not humble, I just detect an air of defeatism when he says "it's not something I even think about anymore".... Like he's made peace with the fact he may never get back into the All Blacks setup.
It's just the classic NZ problem of having a surplus of talent and not enough jerseys to go around.
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@nonpartizan said in All Blacks 2025:
Didn't Sotutu already turn down a call up in 2024
He was injured.
Here' what Robertson said at he time :
"We were going to bring Hoskins in, but he’s injured,” declared Robertson. “We’ve been considering it over the last couple of days, but with his knee, after scans, he won't come"He's a player that some people like to make shit up about. A similar rumour was pushed last week
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@Duluth said in All Blacks 2025:
@nonpartizan said in All Blacks 2025:
Didn't Sotutu already turn down a call up in 2024
He was injured.
Here' what Robertson said at he time :
"We were going to bring Hoskins in, but he’s injured,” declared Robertson. “We’ve been considering it over the last couple of days, but with his knee, after scans, he won't come"He's a player that some people like to make shit up about. A similar rumour was pushed last week
I stand corrected.
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@nonpartizan said in All Blacks 2025:
It's just the classic NZ problem of having a surplus of talent and not enough jerseys to go around.
Eh? Our halfbacks have gone off the boil, we're so desperate we're poaching locks from the Netherlands and props from Australia, (props from Australia!) we don't have a clear, class-leading 10, still not settled on the loosies, and we're still plundering Fiji for backs. Oh and our wings have Japanese names or need to learn how to run backwards without falling over, we have to send our 12 to Ireland to learn how to play in the midfield and our coach has the overwhelming international experience of coaching Brazil.
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@nonpartizan said in All Blacks 2025:
I stand corrected.
Not your fault, the rumour was everywhere. He seems to be a target for a lot of bullshit recently
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@Duluth said in All Blacks 2025:
@nonpartizan said in All Blacks 2025:
I stand corrected.
Not your fault, the rumour was everywhere. He seems to be a target for a lot of bullshit recently
Yeah thanks Duluth. I often forget where and when I read stuff too so it's hard to track and also know how reliable the source was. Certainly wasn't trying to throw out false news.
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@Duluth said in All Blacks 2025:
@nonpartizan said in All Blacks 2025:
I stand corrected.
Not your fault, the rumour was everywhere. He seems to be a target for a lot of bullshit recently
He really is. Has he done something off the field that we dont knwo about?
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:
@nonpartizan said in All Blacks 2025:
It's just the classic NZ problem of having a surplus of talent and not enough jerseys to go around.
Eh? Our halfbacks have gone off the boil, we're so desperate we're poaching locks from the Netherlands and props from Australia, (props from Australia!) we don't have a clear, class-leading 10, still not settled on the loosies, and we're still plundering Fiji for backs. Oh and our wings have Japanese names or need to learn how to run backwards without falling over, we have to send our 12 to Ireland to learn how to play in the midfield and our coach has the overwhelming international experience of coaching Brazil.
It is doom and gloom, I tell you!No it's not. Razor jettisoned Blackadder and Papalii so now there's just one flavour of Vanilla in the squad in Jacobsen.
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@brodean said in All Blacks 2025:
In that PR article Sotutu basically said he wants to focus on the job at hand and not worry about things outside of his control.
Acknowledges there is a lot competition.
Played the questions with a straight bat really.
Considering all the rumours, the solid investigative journalism on this has been ... ah, don't know...
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Well that’s because there’s no story (despite the rumours) and I don’t even think Hoskins knows what he wants to do.
Nor does he really say a lot when he speaks - as seen above.
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@zedsdeadbaby said in All Blacks 2025:
Well that’s because there’s no story (despite the rumours) and I don’t even think Hoskins knows what he wants to do.
Nor does he really say a lot when he speaks - as seen above.
Surely that can't be true? There must be a conspiracy!
I mean - I heard the only reason Dalton isn't in the team is that he head-butted Razor!
Hoskins - I heard Hoskins threw Razor out a four-storey window for giving his wife a foot massage!
That one's specially for you Zed! (Excellent choice of name!)
