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    A 36 year old Englishman playing in a French div 2 comp walking into the ABs 6 jersey?

    Times must be tough for the ABs.

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    Crusaders start with 4 out of 5 All Black tight five and also one off the bench. The Crusaders tight five sets the platform for their loosies to go nuts. Shalfoon is a hard worker too. The Crusaders loosies aren't doing it on their own.

    Besides that the games were very close. The Blues and the Chiefs had their fair share of ball. In the end it was the Crusaders halves and Will Jordan who were the difference between the teams.

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    @reprobate said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

    Tom Christie who nobody thinks is AB material?

    He's only good on one side of the ball.

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    @brodean said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

    @mariner4life

    Times must be tough for the ABs.

    first day on the fern? 😉

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    @brodean said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

    Besides that the games were very close. The Blues and the Chiefs had their fair share of ball. In the end it was the Crusaders halves and Will Jordan who were the difference between the teams.

    Yep small margins

    With 14 men the Blues ground their way from halfway to the goal line with 35 phases to nearly tie the game and send it into extra time.

    CLW comes up with a big play to win it. I think CLW was pretty well supported in terms of people wanting to see him get a shot in the ABs (I'm one of them).

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    I'm gutted about the Sititi injury, mainly because I finally had hope this year that we would get a loose forward trio consisting of players at 6,7 & 8 that will actually play as 6, 7 or 8.
    With Sititi gone they'll probably panic and put Savea back to 8, then we have a Finau, Kirifi, Savea combo...

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    Some stats showing Blackadders Running Impact:

    Tackle Evasion %
    34.6 Veveni Lasaqa
    26.7 Ardie Savea
    22.8 Dalton Papali'i
    20.0 Jahrome Brown
    19.5 Luke Jacobson
    18.4 Du'Plessis Kirifi
    8.8 Kaylum Boshier
    8.6 Tom Christie
    7.1 Adrian Choat
    2.5 Ethan Blackadder

    Gainline %
    73.6 Veveni Lasaqa
    73.5 Jahrome Brown
    68.8 Ardie Savea
    66.7 Adrian Choat
    65.8 Luke Jacobson
    64.3 Kaylum Boshier
    63.0 Dalton Papali'i
    54.0 Du'Plessis Kirifi
    44.2 Tom Christie
    34.1 Ethan Blackadder

    Dominant Carry %
    44.2 Veveni Lasaqa
    43.8 Luke Jacobson
    35.5 Ardie Savea
    34.3 Dalton Papali'i
    33.8 Tom Christie
    33.6 Du'Plessis Kirifi
    28.2 Kaylum Boshier
    24.1 Adrian Choat
    13.8 Ethan Blackadder

    When Tom Christie, Adrian Choat, and Kaylum Boshier all have more effective carries in all these metrics that's a problem.

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    cue someone pointing out "stats dont tell the whole story"

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    @brodean very telling and is basically what Razor said re: his omission - not enough impact in contact, which has always been a problem for him. I'm very surprised anyone is still wanting to see him in black based on SR form, he's a reasonable stop-gap measure but we aren't going to mix it with the big boys with him there.

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    @brodean said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

    Some stats showing Blackadders Running Impact:

    Tackle Evasion %
    34.6 Veveni Lasaqa
    26.7 Ardie Savea
    22.8 Dalton Papali'i
    20.0 Jahrome Brown
    19.5 Luke Jacobson
    18.4 Du'Plessis Kirifi
    8.8 Kaylum Boshier
    8.6 Tom Christie
    7.1 Adrian Choat
    2.5 Ethan Blackadder

    Gainline %
    73.6 Veveni Lasaqa
    73.5 Jahrome Brown
    68.8 Ardie Savea
    66.7 Adrian Choat
    65.8 Luke Jacobson
    64.3 Kaylum Boshier
    63.0 Dalton Papali'i
    54.0 Du'Plessis Kirifi
    44.2 Tom Christie
    34.1 Ethan Blackadder

    Dominant Carry %
    44.2 Veveni Lasaqa
    43.8 Luke Jacobson
    35.5 Ardie Savea
    34.3 Dalton Papali'i
    33.8 Tom Christie
    33.6 Du'Plessis Kirifi
    28.2 Kaylum Boshier
    24.1 Adrian Choat
    13.8 Ethan Blackadder

    When Tom Christie, Adrian Choat, and Kaylum Boshier all have more effective carries in all these metrics that's a problem.

    One of those times where stats don't lie AND tell the whole story........

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    @brodean said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

    Tackle Evasion %
    34.6 Veveni Lasaqa

    Gainline %
    73.6 Veveni Lasaqa

    Dominant Carry %
    44.2 Veveni Lasaqa!

    alt text

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    He's the anti Blackadder - high impact but also has the lowest workrate in NZ.

    Kirifi and Papali'i each average 18 more contact involvements per 80 minutes compared to Lasaqa.

    Combine Lasaqa and Blackadder into one player and you get Ardie Savea.

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    @reprobate I understand where you're coming from, but @brodean thankfully covered what I was getting at.

    With your logic shouldn't we be giving Springer and Fihaki credit because they dominated their opposites?

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    Damn Veveni Lasaqa really should be in on the All Blacks Radar based on those stats. Bit of a shame we have so many talented sevens because he needs to be seriously considerd based on those stats.

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    @African-Monkey said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

    @brodean said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

    When Tom Christie, Adrian Choat, and Kaylum Boshier all have more effective carries in all these metrics that's a problem.

    One of those times where stats don't lie AND tell the whole story........

    Blackadder could benefit from adding more muscle and strength to his frame. With his undoubted engine, that would enable him to have more impact in the collision.

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    @Callcentre-Spunk said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

    @brodean said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

    Tackle Evasion %
    34.6 Veveni Lasaqa

    Gainline %
    73.6 Veveni Lasaqa

    Dominant Carry %
    44.2 Veveni Lasaqa!

    alt text

    My impression is he doesn't do enough in the defensive side of the game.

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    @antipodean said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

    @African-Monkey said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

    @brodean said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

    When Tom Christie, Adrian Choat, and Kaylum Boshier all have more effective carries in all these metrics that's a problem.

    One of those times where stats don't lie AND tell the whole story........

    Blackadder could benefit from adding more muscle and strength to his frame. With his undoubted engine, that would enable him to have more impact in the collision.

    He's probably tried but might not be able to, especially at 30.

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    @antipodean said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

    My impression is he doesn't do enough in the defensive side of the game.

    Lasaqa doesn't hit enough rucks for a 7 and is ineffective:

    Rucks Per 80 Minutes
    35.34 Dalton Papali'i
    32.44 Tom Christie
    31.48 Du'Plessis Kirifi
    29.13 Jahrome Brown
    28.53 Ardie Savea
    26.84 Luke Jacobson
    26.31 Kaylum Boshier
    20.92 Veveni Lasaqa

    Attacking Ruck Effectiveness
    89.9 Dalton Papali'i
    89.6 Tom Christie
    87.6 Jahrome Brown
    86.3 Ardie Savea
    85.0 Du'Plessis Kirifi
    84.9 Luke Jacobson
    76.5 Veveni Lasaqa
    76.1 Kaylum Boshier

    Defensive Ruck Effectiveness
    23.5 Kaylum Boshier
    23.2 Luke Jacobson
    21.5 Du'Plessis Kirifi
    20.5 Ardie Savea
    15.2 Jahrome Brown
    14.5 Dalton Papali'i
    13.8 Tom Christie
    12.1 Veveni Lasaqa

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    @antipodean said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

    @African-Monkey said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

    @brodean said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

    When Tom Christie, Adrian Choat, and Kaylum Boshier all have more effective carries in all these metrics that's a problem.

    One of those times where stats don't lie AND tell the whole story........

    Blackadder could benefit from adding more muscle and strength to his frame. With his undoubted engine, that would enable him to have more impact in the collision.

    What, get even heavier than 118kg ? ( apparently )

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby-world-cup-2023/300973228/rugby-world-cup-2023-ethan-blackadder-fit-and-focused-for-all-blacks-return

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    @antipodean said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

    Blackadder could benefit from adding more muscle and strength to his frame. With his undoubted engine, that would enable him to have more impact in the collision.

    Sure, but he's is not that small

    I think it's something else. Coaches of his and EB himself have joked about how unco he is. Too often he gets himself into weak positions going into contact and crumbles/bounces off etc

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