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  • NTAN Offline
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    "Kiwi Official Working in Australia wants Australia in Kiwi Competition"

    🤔 First I've heard of a "proposal" that is "being supported". Sure, we've discussed it in the past but NRC is here now and we need to focus on that.

    Hore is probably just sick of dealing with the pile of steaming dogshit that is Sydney Premier Rugby administrator illuminati, and looking for ways around it. He won't get there because NZ will have nothing to do with it.

    So he'll have to go back to fighting Sydney Premier Clubs for something better. Some of the big clubs hate the NRC and wish it would fuck off so they could get some sweet TV funding.

    What they don't understand is that none of them run even close to profit and are so busy consuming themselves that rugby is dying except for certain enclaves, where volunteers have worked their arses off with a plan e.g. northern beaches.

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    @NTA said in Aussie Rugby in general:

    "Kiwi Official Working in Australia wants Australia in Kiwi Competition"

    • Yep, that's it.
      Not an "aussie rugby" idea at all, just Hore "brainstorming" out loud.
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    I don't have too much problem with investigating the concept of evolving the NPC into an Australasian comp.

    The pros could be more viewer interest, more sponsorship money, more variety.

    The cons could be the comp structure becoming elitist again in NZ to accommodate the extra teams, a homogenisation of playing styles between the countries, increased expenditure for travel.

    Maybe with the changing environment for Super Rugby a serious look is taken at a next tier comp that could include local based PI teams as well. It would need to remain at the semi-pro level though for NZ with strong constraints around expenditure/caps etc.

    I can't personally see how it would fly, or be of short/medium term benefit for NZ but it could be worth a look for the next change cycle that will inevitably come. We have the NPC in a good place as far as development goes at the moment but that could change or the demands for financial accountability could increase.

    One driver down the track is likely to be a change in the broadcast environment. At some point I can see NZRU having to produce and own the TV product themselves, then on sell it to various mediums without exclusivity. The days of Sky/ Fox being the card holders is coming to an end and there will be change.

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    @Crucial said in Aussie Rugby in general:

    One driver down the track is likely to be a change in the broadcast environment. At some point I can see NZRU having to produce and own the TV product themselves, then on sell it to various mediums without exclusivity. The days of Sky/ Fox being the card holders is coming to an end and there will be change.

    Yep - with the rapid internet being deployed now, there are going to be few issues delivering content via the web.

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    @Crucial said in Aussie Rugby in general:

    I don't have too much problem with investigating the concept of evolving the NPC into an Australasian comp.
    The pros could be more viewer interest, more sponsorship money, more variety.

    Super Rugby isn't working in Oz because all the teams are currently shite. The NPC loses money in its current format. Adding a longer format with greater transport costs is not a genius move to long-term financial sustainability.

    So what do you do if it continues to have no interest and you're losing vastly more money?

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    Discussion on internet speeds etc has been moved to this thread:
    http://www.thesilverfern.com/topic/417/the-interweb/137

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    Back on topic

    Rob Clarke resigns from ARU

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11850250

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    @Crucial said in Aussie Rugby in general:

    Back on topic

    Rob Clarke resigns from ARU

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11850250

    What's weird about that story is the picture of the Harley ...

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    @booboo said in Aussie Rugby in general:

    @Crucial said in Aussie Rugby in general:

    Back on topic

    Rob Clarke resigns from ARU

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11850250

    What's weird about that story is the picture of the Harley ...

    That was weird.

    Anyway, here's the longer report.....

    The ARU's chief operating officer has resigned in a blow that threatens to further delay the removal of an Australian Super Rugby side.

    Rob Clarke announced his sudden resignation to staff on Thursday.

    The former Melbourne Rebels chief executive has been a central figure in the process of either the Rebels or Western Force being cut from Super Rugby as part of Sanzaar's restructuring of the competition in 2018.

    He had been working closely with ARU boss Bill Pulver in the delicate operation, as well as liaising with the Rebels and Force since the two franchises were confirmed last month as being in the firing line.

    It was hoped that the naming of the two South African franchises and one Australian club to go would take place at a Sanzaar meeting in Tokyo next Wednesday.

    But the saga shows no sign of ending.

    Both the Force and Rebels maintain the ARU has no right to remove their teams in Sanzaar's downsizing to a 15-team tournament, with WA Rugby having commenced legal action and the Melbourne club seeking compensation.

    Clarke, who endured criticism from the West Australian franchise in recent weeks around his former links to the Rebels and Brumbies, had been considered a future CEO of the embattled national body.

    The former advertising executive returned to the ARU in 2014 as general manager of professional rugby, operations and marketing.

    His elevation to chief operating officer in 2015 was his second stint in the role, after serving in the same position in 2006-07.

    "Rob Clarke is one of the outstanding sports administrators in the country and has given wonderful service to the game through the ARU, the Brumbies and Melbourne Rebels over the course of a decade," Pulver said.

    "His resignation was difficult to accept but Rob has decided the time is right to pursue a different course along with his family and he deserves to be incredibly proud of his career in the game.

    "When I look at the values of our game it is hard to imagine someone who embodies those values both in a professional and personal sense more than what Rob does. He is a tremendous loss for the organisation.

    "I am ever-grateful to Rob for his contribution to the ARU and I wish him the very best for his future."

    Clarke, who has declined to comment on his decision until the Super Rugby futures of the Rebels and the Force are known, will end his time with the ARU in June.

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  • NTAN Offline
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    Aussie Rugby today: Fucking ow.

    Full game of First Grade at prop yesterday against Sydney Irish, after nobody else showed up. Mostly loosehead. One scrum at tighthead because we were getting belted that side, and I wanted to see what was going on. Not much really. They were just a bit tighter than us and clearly train together.

    It's pretty fucking sad when a bloke my age, with my level of fitness, who didn't take the game up until later in life, is contesting for best prop on the ground. Even in our division.

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    @NTA you should sign him then...

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    @mariner4life well played.

    Fucker.

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    For some time there has been an assumption that the Brumbies are locked on to win the Australian Conference.

    That assumption has to be called into question now that the Brumbies, Reds and Waratahs are all flying high with 3 wins. Even the Force are in with a shot as they are only one win behind the leaders.

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  • G Offline
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    Still, clearly the Aussies deserve to keep 5 teams, as they are almost keeping up with us!

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    It would be great to have kept some posts from the various forums from Aussies in the early 2000s complaining bitterly how the kiwis were holding them back by not letting them have a fourth team.

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    It'd be lovely to have voice search on the forum to get various posts about various whining over the years.

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    @NTA said in Aussie Rugby in general:

    It'd be lovely to have voice search on the forum to get various posts about various whining over the years.

    It's not whining it's your accent, you guys can't help it. We do our best not to judge you on it .

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    @jegga I was talking about any whining.

    e.g. going back to the Tialata choking McCaw. There was some great stuff in that, looking from the sidelines.

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    @NTA said in Aussie Rugby in general:

    @jegga I was talking about any whining.

    e.g. going back to the Tialata choking McCaw. There was some great stuff in that, looking from the sidelines.

    Yeah mate that was a classic, Tialatas mum would have given him the jandel for that.

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  • CrucialC Offline
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    Just occurred to me that somehow out of this complete shitshow of rugby teams Australia still has the number three ranked team in the world!
    The WR rankings system looks as bad as the Super Rugby finals makeup.

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