2017 New Zealand U20s
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Jordan, Clarke, Falcon, Enari, Jacobson, Walker Leawere and Aumua are the standouts of this team. Lindenmuth and Rakete Stones were excellent in the tight. Tu'u, Papaali'i and Fainganukuu are OK, too. Midfield solid but not brillant. Substitutes not at the same level.
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@Stargazer said in 2017 New Zealand U20s:
My tip to young players. Let the opposition player get up in their own time. A try scorer under a pile up has been happening for 150 years before you fluffybunnies started ruining these moments by .... being fluffybunnies .... and yanking disappointed opposition players out of the way for your un-waitable celebration.
Dicks.
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Great to win the tournament again.
We won't know how good these players are until a few years time when they graduate to Super rugby and beyond.
The 1995 NZ Colts is still the gold standard with no less than 16 players who became ABs. Notable players in that squad were Meeuws, Spencer, Oliver, Hoeft, Randell and Cullen.
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@Stargazer said in 2017 New Zealand U20s:
Massive gap in points scored and tries scored between NZ and the rest. Sink the opposition with tries. Lovely.
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@Mokey said in 2017 New Zealand U20s:
@Stargazer said in 2017 New Zealand U20s:
Massive gap in points scored and tries scored between NZ and the rest. Sink the opposition with tries. Lovely.
Maybe it's just me but does anyone else wish the U20s had employed rush defence and a gameplan based around boxkicks? Too many tries for my liking. Just saying.
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@Bovidae said in 2017 New Zealand U20s:
Great to win the tournament again.
We won't know how good these players are until a few years time when they graduate to Super rugby and beyond.
The 1995 NZ Colts is still the gold standard with no less than 16 players who became ABs. Notable players in that squad were Meeuws, Spencer, Oliver, Hoeft, Randell and Cullen.
Yes. The 1995 colts, along with the 1989 colts and 2011 U20s stick out for me as great age grade teams I've seen.
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@Pot-Hale said in 2017 New Zealand U20s:
Is it just me or is South Africa making a 'comeback' on the world rugby stage a lot sooner than people expected?
I hope so. Think they have realised the can't remain stuck in the past with their selections and game-plans. Lots of quality non-white players seem to be coming through, which will help, as they can be selected on merit and not tokenism.
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@Rapido Didn't the U19s in 1999 have a ridiculous squad? Mils, Richie, Jerry, A Mauger and i am sure a few others
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@mariner4life said in 2017 New Zealand U20s:
@Rapido Didn't the U19s in 1999 have a ridiculous squad? Mils, Richie, Jerry, A Mauger and i am sure a few others
I don't remember 1999.
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@mariner4life said in 2017 New Zealand U20s:
@Rapido Didn't the U19s in 1999 have a ridiculous squad? Mils, Richie, Jerry, A Mauger and i am sure a few others
Yeah, that team was coached by John Boe and captained by Jerry. Woodcock was also in the 1999 side but they didn't have as many future stars. They progressed to the 2000 or 2001 U21s. I remember watching the 2000 U21 final vs SA as the curtainraiser to an Eden Park Bledisloe. A 71-5 win.
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@Bovidae yea, i can't remember the year, i just remember a tournament where the NZ team just murdered everyone, and it was stacked with outrageously good players. Was it in NZ?
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@mariner4life The 1999 U19 tourney was in Wales and NZ beat the hosts in the final.
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the 2003 team was pretty handy, Kaino, Afoa, Tuitupou, Donald, Cowan, Atiga off the top of my head.
http://allblacks.com/Teams/U20/Previous/964
doesnt go back beyond 2008, must be online somewhere for these and other teams too?
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Greatest age group rugby union sides
1992/1993: New Zealand Schools: Played: 6, Won: 6, Points For: 318, Points Against: 57 The New Zealand Schools team made their debut in 1978 and have fashioned a formidable record over the years, winning 118 of their 135 matches. The class of 1992 and 1993 was without doubt the best. Record victories over Australia (32-7) and England (51-5) were achieved and 14 future internationals were produced. The 12 All Blacks were: Daryl Gibson, Carl Hoeft, Jonah Lomu, Isotola Maka, Todd Miller, Carlos Spencer, Jeremy Stanley, Royce Willis, Jeff Wilson, Pita Alatini, Andrew Blowers and Chresten Davis while Trevor Leota played 30 Tests for Samoa and George Leaupepe 26. In the record win against Australia in 1993 Jonah Lomu scored two tries and Carlos Spencer won the man of the match award. Against England, Lomu scored a try and Jeff Wilson amassed 16 points.2002: New Zealand Under-19 – Played: 4, Won: 4, Points For: 275, Points Against: 45 The IRB staged seven Under-19 World Championships between 1999 and 2006. New Zealand won four of them and 28 out of 33 matches. The 1999 New Zealand team produced Richie McCaw and Mils Muliaina, however the 2002 side was the most dominant. New Zealand smashed Korea (83-10), Italy (80-8) and South Africa (41-9) to storm into the final where they met France. Against France, New Zealand won by a staggering score of 71-18, a record in any IRB World final. New Zealand outscored France 10 tries to two with future New Zealand Maori representatives, Pehi Te Whare and Cory Aporo scoring two tries each. Future All Blacks, Jerome Kaino (two), Ben Atiga, Ben Smith and Luke McAllister also scored tries with McAllister contributing 24 points in total. Future English International Thomas Waldrom scored a try as well. Other internationals involved in the New Zealand team were All Blacks, James Ryan, Tamati Ellison and Benson Stanley while Captain Ti’i Paulo and Paul Williams represented Samoa. The French side was hardly a bad one. Dimitri Szarzewski and Yannick Nyanga have since become regular internationals. -
The 1989 u21s had a backline of
15 Ridge
14 Timu
13 Innes
12 Little
11 TuigamalaDon't remember the halves or the forwards. But think Pat Lam may have been captain, Jamie Joseph lock.
Jason Goldsmith was age eligibile also in that backline, but had smashed his leg)The 1995 u21s I can almost remember off the cuff;
15 Cullen
14
13 Stanley
12
11 Randle
10 Spencer
9 Robinson
8 X Rush
7 S Robertson or A Blowers
6 Randell or C Davis
5 Maxwell
4 Willis
3 Meuws
2 Oliver
1 Hoeft(Lomu was age eligible, but in the ABs)
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@Crash said in 2017 New Zealand U20s:
Why can't these fucking English comms team say Umaga properly? UU-MAA-NGAA ffs
They actually made some very good work on a lot of the PI names but there are certain words they simply can't seem to want to change from their own version. Ugh-Manga, Hakka......
