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  • taniwharugbyT Offline
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    replied to mimic on last edited by taniwharugby
    #924

    @mimic yeah our team have been the fittest for a number of years now, sure our players off the bench make an impact as well, but plenty just keep going and surely other coaches have realized how much fitter our guys are, or at least appear than everyone else.

    Kudos to Nic Gill!

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    It's not so much that our players are fitter, it's that they make better decisions when they are tired. They've talked at length about keeping a clear mind when the lungs are burning and the body is aching at the back end of the game. It's all about the top two inches, which I'm sure factors into the equation when players we like at Super level don't get selected for the ABs.

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    I also think a huge part of it comes down to how the ABs prepare and train during the week.

    The ABs harp on and on about how the weekend is a result of the work done during the week.

    I heard Hansen after the game reference the intense training they had on Thursday, which sounded like an opposed session conducted at test intensity.

    Therefore as the ABs train at this intensity and aim their whole weak to peak for game day, so when the intensity occurs on gameday - they expect it/can go with it.

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    #927

    @No-Quarter although being fitter helps with your ability to make better decisions while fatigued, can be the smartest person in the world, but if you aint getting the blood and oxygen round the body to the brain, you will make poor decisions.

    @KiwiMurph yeah I think it's smarter training, thnk they alluded to it in the RWC as well where the sessions varied form day to day in intensity, allowing the right amount of time to recover adequately to ensure at peak for game day.

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    @taniwharugby

    I think Gatland's just being consistent.

    After the near death of BoD and all his family during the last Lions tour, pointing out the dangers of Te'os tackle was important.

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    Sumos take on the game

    https://www.rugbypass.com/article/difference-blacks-lions-one-word

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    @JC quoted Barnes in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:

    Bet your last Kiwi dollar that New Zealand will be praising the Lions attacking game and luring them towards the rocks.

    He might be horrible to listen to, but his analysis here is spot on.

    An attacking game is by its nature open and fast, which is the last thing the Lions should do. What they'll be acutely aware of now, is handing over possession by box kicks is a recipe for disaster.

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    @Frank Nanai has a bit to learn but I am not sure about McKenzie. Under pressure he did not perform well and he does well when he has some space which is less at an international level.

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    Now watching a replay. Within 9 minutes, there were three line-outs. The first one close to our try line after Dagg's magnificent try-saving tackle.

    Just before the first line-out (AB throw), Peyper tells the Lions to "stop talking" and when they creep closer to the ABs lining up, he just shouts "move" with an arm movement away from the ABs to widen the gap.

    Just before the 2nd throw (ABs), he points at one or more Lions players and tells them to "be quiet".

    During the 3rd (Lions throw), he warns them there will be sanctions if they keep trying to close the gap with the lined-up ABs.

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    @Stargazer said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:

    Now watching a replay. Within 9 minutes, there were three line-outs. The first one close to our try line after Dagg's magnificent try-saving tackle.

    Just before the first line-out (AB throw), Peyper tells the Lions to "stop talking" and when they creep closer to the ABs lining up, he just shouts "move" with an arm movement away from the ABs to widen the gap.

    Just before the 2nd throw (ABs), he points at one or more Lions players and tells them to "be quiet".

    During the 3rd (Lions throw), he warns them there will be sanctions if they keep trying to close the gap with the lined-up ABs.

    Yeah this was my point. He needed to start dishing free kicks. It was tedious.

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    #934

    Does anyone know whether Kaino's shoulder problem was at the left or right?

    One thing I've noticed about our scrums is that when Kaino was still on the field, Kaino was positioned at the right side of the scrum and Cane at the left. After Kaino left the field, Cane moved back to the right side of the scrum, with Ardie on the left.

    Is Kaino always pushing at right side of the scrum or is this a possible left-over from his shoulder injury?

    Edit: not sure why, but now (54th min), Cane is back at the left side of the scrum with Ardie on the right.

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    @Stargazer and yet he did little when either team closed the gap later in the game.

    Didnt realise there was a streaker...although it was at the end of the game

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    @Stargazer said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:

    Does anyone know whether Kaino's shoulder problem was at the left or right?

    One thing I've noticed about our scrums is that when Kaino was still on the field, Kaino was positioned at the right side of the scrum and Cane at the left. After Kaino left the field, Cane moved back to the right side of the scrum, with Ardie on the left.

    Is Kaino always pushing at right side of the scrum or is this a possible left-over from his shoulder injury?

    Edit: not sure why, but now (54th min), Cane is back at the left side of the scrum with Ardie on the right.

    Errr ... i thought they were open and blindside. Did they stick to a left/right? That's a bit odd.

    Unless they were planning a backrow move, or they had identified a defensive pattern to be used against their attacking set up.

    ?

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    @booboo said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:

    @Stargazer said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:

    Does anyone know whether Kaino's shoulder problem was at the left or right?

    One thing I've noticed about our scrums is that when Kaino was still on the field, Kaino was positioned at the right side of the scrum and Cane at the left. After Kaino left the field, Cane moved back to the right side of the scrum, with Ardie on the left.

    Is Kaino always pushing at right side of the scrum or is this a possible left-over from his shoulder injury?

    Edit: not sure why, but now (54th min), Cane is back at the left side of the scrum with Ardie on the right.

    Errr ... i thought they were open and blindside. Did they stick to a left/right? That's a bit odd.

    Unless they were planning a backrow move, or they had identified a defensive pattern to be used against their attacking set up.

    ?

    Yeah, it's open and blindside. We don't have a left or right. However, if we're wrong, then that's good spotting there @Stargazer

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    I'd think it more likely what @booboo has suggested in that it was down to a specific pattern (defence) or move (offence) they were doing if they were doing more left/right, with Ardie being quicker or Cane being more Kaino-like in defence.

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    #939

    @mimic Probably not good spotting from me; I didn't look at any pattern/move as referred to by @taniwharugby, but noticed them switching sides. I just don't know anything about scrums. 😆

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  • BonesB Offline
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    #940

    @taniwharugby that was slick off the left to beat the first security guard.

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  • NepiaN Offline
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    #941

    @taniwharugby Shit, that was a long boring build up to watch a naked guy .... Each to their own I guess. 😉

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  • CrucialC Offline
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    #942

    I'd rather get my jollies by watch this over and over.

    BBBR turns on the rockets and saves a situation. Give that man a cape and a movie deal.
    alt text

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    And if that one didn't empty your tanks watch this.

    Dummy, step, fend, offload!
    alt text

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