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  • WallyW Offline
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    replied to cgrant on last edited by
    #80

    @cgrant
    He played most of the game against the Hurricanes (after S Barrett came off) and went pretty well. A fair bit of that might be the team culture where a series of relative no names are fronting up when required.
    He does look about 17 years old though!

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  • SammyCS Offline
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    The last time I saw @Wally this excited about a young lock was when he saw Chris Jack play club rugby at age 18. Told me there was no doubt he'd be an All Black.

    When it comes to locks he knows his stuff.

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    Speaking of locks, does anyone think that Sam Whitelock looks a lot bigger this year? He always seemed like a beanpole lock to me but I don't feel that's the case anymore.

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    @akan004 think it's just a hangover from yesteryear. He's been pretty big for a while now.

    What I find odd is people mentioning him as an option at blindside. If I was lining up one of our locks for blindside it would be Retallick.

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    #84

    Mitch Hunt: Game-saving kick something 'I'll remember for the rest of my life' (interview with Hunt - Veitch on Sport)

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    For all you South Islanders, although the day of the week and time of the day may prevent many people from going to Timaru:

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    #86

    Crusaders U18 Development Squad

    The 2017 Crusaders region Junior Knights Development Camp will be held from the 9th-12th of July at St. Andrews College. At the end of the camp, a squad of 25 players will be selected to play the Hurricanes U18 team in a curtain raiser to the Hurricanes v Crusaders game on 15 July.

    Players selected for the camp:

    Christs college
    Lachie Gunson – Christ’s College, Canterbury
    Sam Darry – Christ’s College, Canterbury
    Jason Embling, Christ’s College, Canterbury
    Amhlaoibh Porter – Christ’s College, Canterbury
    Levi Emery – Christ’s College, Canterbury
    Kaveni Balenacagi – Christ’s College, Canterbury
    Nic Murray – Christ’s College, Canterbury
    Isaiah Punivai – Christ’s College, Canterbury
    Kurtis Weeks – Christ’s College, Canterbury

    Christchurch boys high school
    Hunter Stewart – Christchurch Boys' High School, Canterbury
    Adam Reid – Christchurch Boys' High School, Canterbury
    Angus Tucker – Christchurch Boys' High School, Canterbury
    Campbell Reid – Christchurch Boys' High School, Canterbury
    Sam Alsop-ten Hove – Christchurch Boys' High School, Canterbury
    Corban Harding – Christchurch Boys' High School, Canterbury
    Ben Colvin – Christchurch Boys' High School, Canterbury
    Louie Chapman – Christchurch Boys' High School, Canterbury
    Max Hughes – Christchurch Boys' High School, Canterbury
    Cullen Moody – Christchurch Boys' High School, Canterbury
    Tahu Kaa-Goodwillie – Christchurch Boys' High School, Canterbury
    Latham Kelly-Foleni – Christchurch Boys' High School, Canterbury
    Jack Harris – Christchurch Boys' High School, Canterbury
    Jordan Jennings – Christchurch Boys' High School, Canterbury
    Ryan Barnes – Christchurch Boys' High School, Canterbury

    Timaru boys high school
    Thomas Edwards – Timaru Boys' High Schools, South Canterbury
    Melvin Pauni – Timaru Boys' High School, South Canterbury
    Cullen Grace – Timaru Boys' High School, South Canterbury
    Finlay Joyce – Timaru Boys' High School, South
    Maka Mafelio – Timaru Boys' High School, South Canterbury
    Dean Andrews – Timaru Boys' High School, South Canterbury

    St. Andrews college
    Shilo Klein – St Andrew's College, Canterbury
    Jack Rose – St Andrew's College, Canterbury
    Veitata Kinivuwai – St Andrew’s College, Canterbury
    Scott Rees – St Andrew's College, Canterbury
    George Harding – St Andrew’s College, Canterbury

    Nelson college
    Max Fraine – Nelson College, Ta$man
    Kyle Te Tai – Nelson College, Ta$man
    Caleb Havili – Nelson College, Ta$man
    Caleb Coventry – Nelson College, Ta$man
    Graham Urquhart – Nelson College, Ta$man
    Anton Segner – Nelson College, Ta$man
    Leicester Faingaanuku – Nelson College, Ta$man

    Rangiora high school
    Angus Fletcher – Rangiora High School, Canterbury
    George Prain – Rangiora High School,
    Fletcher Newell- Rangiora high school

    Waimea combined
    Caleb Delany – Waimea College, Ta$man
    Josh McPherson – Waimea College, Ta$man
    Matthew Stevenson – Garin College, Ta$man

    St Thomas of Canterbury college
    Sione Afemui – St Thomas of Canterbury College, Canterbury
    Patrick Elia – St Thomas of Canterbury College, Canterbury

    Marlborough Boys college
    Vailua Kaloni – Marlborough Boys' College, Ta$man
    Jack Shadbolt – Marlborough Boys' College, Ta$man
    Nigel Satherly – Marlborough Boys' College, Ta$man

    High school old boys rugby club
    Simon Rosevear – High School Old Boys, Canterbury

    Shirley boys high school
    Glen Beardsley – Shirley Boys' High School, Canterbury

    St Bedes college
    Reuben Cotter – St Bede’s College, Canterbury

    In addition to this squad, a Wider Training Group has also been selected and will be involved during the camp:

    Wider Training Group:
    Jacson Edie – St Andrew's College, Canterbury
    Caleb Allison – St Bede’s College, Canterbury
    Josh Duckworth – Rangiora High School, Canterbury
    Sam Caldwell – Christchurch Boys' High School, Canterbury
    Charlie Watanabe – Burnside High School, Canterbury
    Alex Harford – Christchurch Boys' High School, Canterbury
    Brad Cvitanich – Timaru Boys' High School, South Canterbury
    Angus Gilbert – St Andrew’s College, Canterbury

    Unavailable due to injury:
    Jaydn Holdaway – Marlborough Boys' College, Ta$man
    Ollie Lewis – Christchurch Boys' High School, Canterbury

    Also unavailable for selection:
    Llew Johnson – St Andrew’s College, Canterbury

    http://crusaders.co.nz/news/1125-players-selected-for-crusaders-region-junior-knights-development-camp

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  • Chris B.C Offline
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    #87

    Interesting.

    When I was at school, many moons ago, one of the big fixtures of the years was Town vs Country. Town usually won, but it wasn't always a drubbing and Country usually had at least a handful of players in the combined Canterbury team.

    Looks like most of those country schools from Hurunui, North Canterbury and Ellesmere are pretty marginalized these days in terms of selection opportunities.

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    #88

    Warm-up match Crusaders v Highlanders (Thu 6 July, k/o 3pm at Alpine Energy Stadium, Timaru)

    Crusaders team:

    1 Tim Perry
    2 Ben Funnell
    3 Michael Alaalatoa
    4 Quinten Strange
    5 Mitchell Dunshea
    6 Heiden Bedwell-Curtis (VC)
    7 Jed Brown
    8 Jordan Taufua (C)
    9 Mitchell Drummond
    10 Mitchell Hunt
    11 George Bridge
    12 Sean Wainui
    13 Seta Tamanivalu
    14 Manasa Mataele
    15 David Havili

    RESERVES
    16 Andrew Makalio
    17 Chris Gawler
    18 Oliver Jager
    19 Jonno Osbourne
    20 Shannon Frizell
    21 Bryn Hall (VC)
    22 Marty McKenzie
    23 Braydon Ennor
    24 Jone Macilai
    25 Vernon Fredericks
    -- Digby Ioane

    https://crusaders.co.nz/news/1126-team-to-play-the-highlanders-in-warm-up-game

    I wonder why Richie Mo'unga and Tim Bateman are not in this line-up. Particularly, Mo'unga is surprising, because he's mostly likely to start against the Hurricanes on 15 July.

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    ACT Crusader
    replied to Stargazer on last edited by
    #89

    @Stargazer probably dropped after his Lions performance.....

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  • StargazerS Offline
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    Highlanders team:

    1 Daniel Lienert-Brown
    2 Ash Dixon (c)
    3 Siate Tokolahi
    4 Tom Franklin
    5 Jackson Hemopo
    6 Gareth Evans
    7 James Lentjes
    8 Luke Whitelock
    9 Kayne Hammington
    10 Fletcher Smith
    11 Tevita Li
    12 Rob Thompson
    13 Sio Tomkinson
    14 Gavin Stark
    15 Josh Ioane

    Reserves: Greg Pleasants-Tate, Flynn Thomas, Aki Seiuli, Craig Millar, Guy Millar, Alex Ainley, Joe Wheeler, Elliot Dixon, Adam Knight, Dan Pryor, Josh Renton, Liam Howley, Teihorangi Walden, Thomas Umaga-Jensen, Jona Nareki

    http://thehighlanders.co.nz/news/832-pulse-energy-highlanders-squad-named-for-crusaders-warm-up-match

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  • Chris B.C Offline
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    Mo'unga - maybe carrying a niggle, or maybe he's just too important to risk in this game. I see the Highlanders aren't using Marty Banks, either.

    Good to see Digby Ioane and Macilai back. I'm also interested to see Shannon Frizell included. For those who don't know he's the brother of Aussie leaguie Tyson Frizell. Has good size for a blindside flanker!

    Looks like the injury ward is emptying a fair bit with the business end of the season approaching. Crotty and Pete Samu presumably still crocked, but not many others?

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    replied to Chris B. on last edited by
    #92

    @Chris-B. Stuff said that he was carrying a minor injury.

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  • Chris B.C Offline
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    #93

    What's the story with Sione Fifita - not appearing even in a match like this one?

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  • WurzelW Offline
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    #94

    Gonna be a good clear out at the end of the season, with Razor getting rid of Toddy's deadwood.

    And it appears that everyone likes playing for Robertson too which should make recruiting easier if all the boys are telling their mates how they love it in the Crusaders camp.

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    Wurzel
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    Landers win 33-12.

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  • Chris B.C Offline
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    @Wurzel Looks like the Highlanders did that pretty easily.

    Yeah - I'd think there will be half a dozen that Razor will be looking at shedding. Fifita, Sean Wainui and Leon Fukofuka probably top of the list. Marty McKenzie, Jone Macilai and Tim Perry won't be sleeping comfortably in their beds either.

    I think they'll be fairly keen to hold onto everyone else - though Digby Ioane has been something of a foodbill.

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    replied to Chris B. on last edited by
    #97

    @Chris-B. The problem for Robertson: some of these players are on contracts extending beyond the 2017 season. For example, Fukofuka and Macilai are signed through to 2018. Not sure about the others. Is there a way to get rid of players who are still on a contract, esp if no other franchise wants them?

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    Tim
    replied to Stargazer on last edited by
    #98

    @Stargazer

    The Blues "de-listed" Anscombe (in a baffling move). Anyone know exactly what happened with contracts there?

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  • DuluthD Offline
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    replied to Tim on last edited by Duluth
    #99

    @Tim

    Don't know exactly how it works, but the delisted guys go into a draft pool and other teams can pick them up.

    So Jackson Willison a few years ago was delisted so the Chiefs could sign and protect Aki. The Chiefs still intended to pick Willison from the draft (assuming no one else would want him) but the Blues picked him

    Not sure what happens if no teams want a delisted player. I assume the original team would have to honour the contract?

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