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  • ToddyT Offline
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    I do think BB form is down from last year but it is worth pointing out that the Hurricanes 12 & 13 have 14 tries each this season and BB has the most try assists. So although teams have worked him out, it has opened up opportunities for players around him.

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    @Toddy The more attention he draws, the more opportunities are created for those outside him.

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    @Toddy said in Brumbies v Hurricanes - Ardie to 2nd 5:

    I do think BB form is down from last year but it is worth pointing out that the Hurricanes 12 & 13 have 14 tries each this season and BB has the most try assists. So although teams have worked him out, it has opened up opportunities for players around him.

    Yeah. What @Chester-Draws says about shutting him down is correct, but involves giving him a lot of attention to ensure he is contained. If that is a necessity for teams to stop him tearing them apart then it is advantage BBs team.

    He'll never have DCs allround game but I'd put him ahead of AC at this stage of his career.

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    @Chester-Draws said in Brumbies v Hurricanes - Ardie to 2nd 5:

    @chimoaus said in Brumbies v Hurricanes - Ardie to 2nd 5:

    @KiwiMurph said in Brumbies v Hurricanes - Ardie to 2nd 5:

    Impressive 2nd half Canes.

    Yep BB seems to have been off for over a month, his form pre AB's was electric.

    I think better sides have worked him out, to be honest. He caused the Chiefs few pains while he was "electric" except when moved to fullback, where he can run in open space. Nor were the Crusaders much bothered by him.

    Never give him the outside shoulder to run at -- always push him in. Watch the cross-field kick. Mark him particularly carefully when he falls back, because that's where he's really dangerous.

    BB's skill set is unbalanced -- he's lightening fast and cross-kicks well, but the rest of his game is fairly standard for a Super Rugby 1st-5. In form DC and AC have much better all-round games IMO. They seem to stand flatter to the line and get the ball to their outsides in better positions.

    Time will tell, but I think the days of BB carving up teams more or less by himself as he did in 2016 might be behind him.

    Disagree. Teams didn't suddenly "figure him out" a few weeks back. He's not 100% fit right now and it shows. Even Carter was ordinary when he wasn't healthy.

    That "fairly standard" line is nonsense. He has an outstanding pass off both sides, his kicking game is excellent and his size allows him to hit the line more effectively than most 10s and he also has a very useful offload. Standard my arse.

    Basically what you're saying is that all he has is pace and a cross-kick. What utter bollocks.

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    Haven't read the whole thread.

    What is going on with Jules? His decision making is awful. Kicks or cuts in and dies with the ball, after doing one blockbuster of a run. Looks really low on confidence, it's weird.

    Oh to be named Barrett. Tinny, freak shit just always happens around those boys eh. Ben May's best ever moment on a rugby field.

    Goosen has stepped up in a couple of matches, be good to see him hold that level.

    JTA's card was tough, but he could've done better. Pretty pathetic of Jackson to go down that route though when he's not even going to penalise brumbies high tackles.

    Great win Canes.

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    @Bones Jules is a curious one. He turned up at the start of the season fit as fuck and was excellent right up until Boyd "rested" him for a match. After that he's been on a downward slide and was very poor last night. Confidence defintely down.

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    @No-Quarter said in Brumbies v Hurricanes - Ardie to 2nd 5:

    @Bones Jules is a curious one. He turned up at the start of the season fit as fuck and was excellent right up until Boyd "rested" him for a match. After that he's been on a downward slide and was very poor last night. Confidence defintely down.

    Him shelling that sitter with the line in sight during Lions test 3 was typical

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    @canefan typical of what?

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    @Bones said in Brumbies v Hurricanes - Ardie to 2nd 5:

    @canefan typical of what?

    Typical example of a guy who's lost his confidence. Jordie put a dead cert try on a plate for him but Jules snatched at it and down it went

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    @canefan ah right I get ya now.

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    Something else....was Goosen not a mile offside for that try off the lineout?

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    @Bones Yeah. He was already offside when Rici threw the ball. He was halfway there before the ball had crossed the 15m line.

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    @antipodean I thought it was glaringly obvious and was surprised the ref didn't even flinch, nor the commentators mention it (it was Marshall I guess). Thought I'd missed something (like he was at halfback).

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    Having read the thread I think the highlight is the variety of ways to spell Lealiifano.

    JTA put himself in it for the card. There's absolutely no reason why he couldn't and shouldn't have aimed lower. There was a really easy way for him to not fall foul there and I can't understand people on here absolving players of blame. He sees a player getting tackled, he should probably realise he's going to drop and set himself to tackle lower, not aim at the shoulders of an already falling player.

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    @Bones said in Brumbies v Hurricanes - Ardie to 2nd 5:

    Having read the thread I think the highlight is the variety of ways to spell Lealiifano.

    JTA put himself in it for the card. There's absolutely no reason why he couldn't and shouldn't have aimed lower. There was a really easy way for him to not fall foul there and I can't understand people on here absolving players of blame. He sees a player getting tackled, he should probably realise he's going to drop and set himself to tackle lower, not aim at the shoulders of an already falling player.

    Yep, a situation not unlike SBWs but with a less dangerous outcome.
    You simply have to be far more careful now. If it is one on one then aim for the chest but if another tackler is involved that same height carries a lot of risk

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    @antipodean said in Brumbies v Hurricanes - Ardie to 2nd 5:

    @Bones Yeah. He was already offside when Rici threw the ball. He was halfway there before the ball had crossed the 15m line.

    So what. Please look at that law.

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    @Bones said in Brumbies v Hurricanes - Ardie to 2nd 5:

    @antipodean I thought it was glaringly obvious and was surprised the ref didn't even flinch, nor the commentators mention it (it was Marshall I guess). Thought I'd missed something (like he was at halfback).

    Maybe they know the law (which you obviously don't).

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    @Damo said in Brumbies v Hurricanes - Ardie to 2nd 5:

    @Bones said in Brumbies v Hurricanes - Ardie to 2nd 5:

    @antipodean I thought it was glaringly obvious and was surprised the ref didn't even flinch, nor the commentators mention it (it was Marshall I guess). Thought I'd missed something (like he was at halfback).

    Maybe they know the law (which you obviously don't).

    Obviously, hence I asked the question. Thanks for the enlightening reply. I was of the understanding you must remain 10m back from the lineout until it's over. So what have we missed?

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  • CrucialC Offline
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    @Bones said in Brumbies v Hurricanes - Ardie to 2nd 5:

    @Damo said in Brumbies v Hurricanes - Ardie to 2nd 5:

    @Bones said in Brumbies v Hurricanes - Ardie to 2nd 5:

    @antipodean I thought it was glaringly obvious and was surprised the ref didn't even flinch, nor the commentators mention it (it was Marshall I guess). Thought I'd missed something (like he was at halfback).

    Maybe they know the law (which you obviously don't).

    Obviously, hence I asked the question. Thanks for the enlightening reply. I was of the understanding you must remain 10m back from the lineout until it's over. So what have we missed?

    I assume @Damo is talking about this

    (c) Long throw in. If the player who is throwing in throws the ball beyond the 15-metre line, a player of the same team may run forward to take the ball as soon as the ball leaves the hands of the player throwing in. If that player does so, opponents may also run forward. If a player runs forward to take a long throw in, and the ball is not thrown beyond the 15-metre line, this player is offside and must be penalised.

    You are saying he was offside before the ball was thrown. I have looked at clips and couldn't find evidence of that as he is not in shot

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  • StargazerS Offline
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    IMO there was nothing wrong with Goosen's try. Throw was straight and not off-side. Perferct timing.

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