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Speaking of skinny white guys, I believe a good argument could also be made that PSB is the greatest disco band ever ...<br />
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"Left to My Own Devices," from that Prince Charlie Trust benefit concert ("Che Guevara and Debussy to a disco beat") in 2004. Quite sensational to get this with a full symphony. -
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Interesting commentary at ESPN Grantland yesterday to coincide with the 2-cd deluxe edition of the epochal masterpiece:[b] [/b]<br />
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There are some interesting observations there about how sports and art/music fans define "Greatness."<br />
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The amazing Amanda Palmer, formerly of the Dresden Dolls.<br />
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I have grown to hate Eric Clapton also. Regardless of his reason for the song I feel like being sick every time Tears in Heaven comes on the radio.<br />
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Yeah aside from some pretty cool wahwah guitar in the Cream days the thought that people used to grafitti "Clapton is God" around London in the 60s is fucken laughable. Of that era ( let alone others ) the likes of Hendrix, Beck, Blackmore, Page, Santana and Townsend absolutely wipe the floor with him in my opinion. -
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Yeah aside from some pretty cool wahwah guitar in the Cream days the thought that people used to grafitti "Clapton is God" around London in the 60s is fucken laughable. Of that era ( let alone others ) the likes of Hendrix, Beck, Blackmore, Page, Santana and Townsend absolutely wipe the floor with him in my opinion.<br />
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Not to mention a couple of lesser known names in Johnny Winter ( Greatest slide guitarist who has ever lived ) and Alvin Lee ( awesome blues rock licks )<br />
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Not to mention a couple of lesser known names in Johnny Winter ( Greatest slide guitarist who has ever lived ) and Alvin Lee ( awesome blues rock licks )<br />
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.....again this is barely even mentioning guys from the mid 70's onwards.....<br />
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and forgetting Roy Buchanan and Shuggie Otis, seen here together with Shuggie at about 15 yrs old.<br />
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Crucial, I'll confess to having barely heard of those guys but nonetheless was suitably impressed.<br />
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Back to Clapton I may have judged him a bit harshly, true his unplugged album and some attempts at the blues were rubbish but he did some good stuff if I think long and hard and picture the old mans record collection "Let it grow", "I shot the sheriff" "After Midnight" and a few others. I still stand well and truly by my initial view that his "aura" as a guitar hero compared to the guys I mentioned ( all of whom were superior as pure axemen, ok [i]maybe [/i]not Townsend but the rest....) is pretty tenuous. Hendrix is ( rightly ) regarded as the best of the lot but many casual observers place EC at number two. For a musically driven supergroup Cream as a whole were a bit overrated too, Jack Bruce was no better than Entwhistle, John Paul Jones, Roger Glover etc. I will confess the only three guys who could touch Ginger Baker were Iain Paice, Michael Shrieve and John Bonham. I think Keith Moons over the top ness and sheer idiocy prohibits him from joining this echelon although others may argue.......Baker was a fucken awesome drummer and in my view the most talented of Cream..... <br />
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JJ Cale's originals (Cocaine, After Midnight) are way better.<br />
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EC did a much better version of the latter I reckon.<br />
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My old man probably owns everything JJ Cale ever did, loves him. I think for guys of my age ( 35) having an old man who grew up with that stuff and raiding the record collection is an awesome education into great music. I hope my boys do the same to my NER*D, Foos, Chillis, Jamiroquai, Metallica and Faith no More collection ( in amongst a million other good groups ! ) -
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You mean like when he played with the Isley Brothers (on probably the very first 'funk' recording), or Curtis Mayfield and The impressions or with the Famous Flames backing Bobby Byrd and James Brown? But I agree it would have been great to hear him with the next phase of funk. Pity he had moved in other directions as that was happening. -
Actually it's funny you mention Louis 'Thunder Thumbs' Johnson. You realise that the Brothers Johnson's biggest hit 'Strawberry Letter 23' was a remake of the original Shuggie Otis recording?<br />
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I love a bit of Thunder Thumbs and Lightening Licks if I want some real funky disco. Stomp, Get the Funk Outta My Face are awesome, but check out Louis' lines on this<br />
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Yeah he's a super bass player for sure, I love the way he incorporated it into some seriously cool funk with his brother. Wow, I didn't know that, I first heard Strawberry letter 23 when I saw jackie Brown back in 97. That tune alone made me buy the soundtrack which also featured many other gems.....s a typical teenager who played guitar to pick up chicks before swtiching to bass I dig a good bottom liner. Louis Johnson basically took up and arguably imporved on what Larry Graham started....<br />
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But anyway, I defy anyone to find a better bass player than this joker here, Robert Trujillo. Granted Flea did an at times similiar style in a better band ( Chillis being better than Infectious Grooves, not necassarily Metallica ) but in terms off a bass off this guy would smash the lot of them.<br />
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You mean like when he played with the Isley Brothers (on probably the very first 'funk' recording), or Curtis Mayfield and The impressions or with the Famous Flames backing Bobby Byrd and James Brown? But I agree it would have been great to hear him with the next phase of funk. Pity he had moved in other directions as that was happening.<br />
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True, but I meant before that. He was there in the very early funk days but moved in his own direction as it grew.<br />
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Slightly different time span, but Bootsy Collins was playing with JB in that next phase and then kicked on further with the P-Funk era. You've got me going on you-tube now, and I hadn't seen this clip before. A young Bootsy backing JB and looking every bit like Snoop Dogg with a fro.<br />
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He was booked to play in NZ in 88 at the old Sweetwaters site at Pukekawa (Neon Picnic I think it was going to be called). I still have the ticket somewhere, but it never went ahead. I couldn't even bring myself to return the ticket for a refund.<br />
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Bob Geldof was the only artist that fronted as he had other commitments and was already here. He did a donation gig out West Auckland in a park to try and help raise money for the sound crews and the like that lost lots of money on it. It was a poor consolation even though it was actually quite good. -
Going back to your earlier comments about Moon and Entwhistle, I agree that if you take them on their own they are up there but arguably not great (although I think Moon was brilliant). What they had though, was a combination that is one of the best ever. I wouldn't even use the term 'rhythm section' as in Sly and Robbie as they didn't just provide a backbone, they created their own sounds within the song. A great example is on 'The Real Me'. Listen to each instrument on it's own and it's all over the show but together it's perfect. Sometimes when you listen to The Who you totally forget that they are only a three-piece with a singer.
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Going back to your earlier comments about Moon and Entwhistle, I agree that if you take them on their own they are up there but arguably not great (although I think Moon was brilliant). What they had though, was a combination that is one of the best ever. I wouldn't even use the term 'rhythm section' as in Sly and Robbie as they didn't just provide a backbone, they created their own sounds within the song. A great example is on 'The Real Me'. Listen to each instrument on it's own and it's all over the show but together it's perfect. Sometimes when you listen to The Who you totally forget that they are only a three-piece with a singer.<br />
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Entwistle was the true prodigy of that band in a completely different way to most Bass players.....Daltry was a fucken hugely charismatic frontman though and obviously Townsend was the good guitarist who wrote so much of their great stuff. As a band they just worked so well. Moon ? may have to go back and have a listen but I'll stick by my initial opinions until then.<br />
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Funny how all the guys from Deep Purple rarely get mentioned as individual musicians. I think all were brilliant ( well maybe Roger Glover more steady than brilliant, a fact the man himself admitted ). A great rock band is nothing without an awesome frontman but DP, the Zeps and various others expanded on this by having such kick ass musos as well.
