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  • TimT Away
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    @JayCee Damn. Was hoping he'd sign with the Blues.

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    @JayCee said in Super Rugby News:

    radio sport are reporting that Bryn Hall has re-signed with the Crusaders

    Confirmed by the Crusaders. Hall has re-signed for one season.

    http://crusaders.co.nz/news/1142-bryn-hall-re-signs-with-bnz-crusaders

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    Dalton Papalii and Caleb Clarke have signed with the Blues. Unclear for how many seasons.

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    @Stargazer Probably only six positions available at the Blues now (LH prop, TH prop, lock, loose forward, halfback, utility).

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    At this rate there can't be many spots open in any of the five NZ squads for anyone that comes from out of the blue in the Mitre10 Cup to compete for.

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    @Higgins said in Super Rugby News:

    At this rate there can't be many spots open in any of the five NZ squads for anyone that comes from out of the blue in the Mitre10 Cup to compete for.

    I find it annoying that increasingly the NPC to Super pathway is being minimised with players being tied up early. A reward for a stellar NPC should be a Super berth, not being chucked into an incase of injury pool and having to wait for the next year to be selected in the squad.

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    #2249

    @Nepia yep, contracts being offered to kids who have barely even played M10 Cup (if at all in some cases) sure there is the odd exception that warrants it, but must be frustrating for some of the 23-25 yr olds who have been playing M10 at a good enough level for years miss out to some kid that gets a contract just so they don't get picked by someone else.

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    My problem is with mediocre players continuing to get Super Rugby contracts who clearly aren't up to it - Sam Prattley etc

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    #2251

    Any ideas for a solution? Do they allow x number of young players on top of the squad numbers? Do they have some sort of transfer window? A draft system like the AFL?

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    #2252

    Clarke and Papali'i are pretty obvious signings. I don't see any problem with young guys working their way through the age group teams and earning a contract.

    I don't have sympathy for a 23-25 year old who can't squeeze his way into the top ~200 players in the country. That means not being rated by 5 different sets of selectors. It's not a charity.

    The problem is the lack of open spots 1 week into the NPC season. Some franchises have already claimed their roster is almost sorted.. thats a real issue

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    @Duluth said in Super Rugby News:

    Clarke and Papali'i are pretty obvious signings. I don't see any problem with young guys working their way through the age group teams and earning a contract.

    I don't have sympathy for a 23-25 year old who can't squeeze his way into the top ~200 players in the country. That means not being rated by 5 different sets of selectors. It's not a charity.

    The problem is the lack of open spots 1 week into the NPC season. Some franchises have already claimed their roster is almost sorted.. thats a real issue**

    Agree with this entirely.

    The Jock Hobbs National Under 19 tournament is putting 400 players into view every year. Super teams are getting an eyeful of this emerging talent every year and taking punts on players. This is leading to a Mitre 10 Cup performer being ignored.

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    @chimoaus said in Super Rugby News:

    some sort of transfer window?

    That might help.. but the downside is it would make players more vulnerable to overseas offers waiting for the window

    I think it might sort it self out over time. The lack of spots seems a lot worse this year.
    When franchises miss out on high quality SR players because they didn't leave spots open for NPC breakouts, behaviour will change

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    Players can still emerge through the NPC though. How many had heard of Mitchell Brown before he was selected to make his debut for the Chiefs against Wales last year? He wasn't named in the original squad but was part of the WTG.

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    @Duluth I wasn't meaning anyone in particular and tbf there probably aren't big numbers of truly unlucky players but are still a few who do get shut out because so few spots exist due to signing these young guys who might not play in thier first year of a 3 year contract.

    Also don't think there is an easy fix...is just guys getting contracted out of school is becoming more normal I guess.

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    @Stargazer said in Super Rugby News:

    @JayCee said in Super Rugby News:

    radio sport are reporting that Bryn Hall has re-signed with the Crusaders

    Confirmed by the Crusaders. Hall has re-signed for one season.

    http://crusaders.co.nz/news/1142-bryn-hall-re-signs-with-bnz-crusaders

    So by my count:

    Not yet signed from last year's squad:
    Jed Brown
    Quentin Strange
    Andrew Makalio
    Heiden Bedwell Curtis
    Mitchell Dunshea
    Tim Bateman
    Manasa Makaele
    Marty McKenzie
    Sione Fifita
    Sean Wainui

    New signings:
    Tom Sanders

    So, still nine vacant slots assuming Richard Knowler is on the ball regarding unsigned players from last year.

    Question for Crusaders fans. Do you cut Marty McKenzie and sign a young first five like Cameron or McKay - or stick with him as your third choice for another season given that if you need to actually use someone he'll probably be the best in the short term.

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    #2258

    Does anyone know if Delany has signed with any one?

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    @JayCee He's not on my list. While that is no 100% guarantee he hasn't signed with anyone, I'm reasonably confident he's still a free man.

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    replied to Chris B. on last edited by
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    @Chris-B.

    Question for Crusaders fans. Do you cut Marty McKenzie and sign a young first five like Cameron or McKay - or stick with him as your third choice for another season given that if you need to actually use someone he'll probably be the best in the short term.

    I would cut Marty McKenzie. He's a palagi Volavola. Our '3rd first five' position would be much better filled by someone like Josh McKay.

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    Worth remembering Tim Bateman could fill that role of experienced, serviceable first five if we ever got in a hole where Mo'unga and Hunt fall over in the same week we play a NZ team where it's too important to start a McKay or Cameron.

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  • TimT Away
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    #2262

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/96264455/andrew-flexman-stepping-down-as-chief-executive-of-chiefs-super-rugby-club

    Starting a fashion company - specialising in shirts.

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