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  • BovidaeB Offline
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    replied to Stargazer on last edited by
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    @stargazer

    A lot of people just pay for a short-term Sky subscription to cover marquee events like a RWC and then dump Sky anyway. If Sky needs to install a dish for these new subscribers then they must be spending more in start-up costs for little return.

    My main point is that Sky will make more money from SANZAAR rugby rights (via advertising and subscriptions) than a tournament held every 4 years. If TVNZ or another player put in competitive bids for the SANZAAR rights then Sky should be worried. Rugby, cricket, RL etc is their bread and butter.

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  • BovidaeB Offline
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    @taniwharugby

    Possibly, Duke does have plenty of sport. But if they bombarde us with ads. 😡

    TVNZ will have to provide app and on demand options too.

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    @bovidae I guess the issue here is Sky losing the RWC, we know NZR are looking at their options for their other 'products' so is this the beginning of the end for Sky, or putting them on notice that they will need to up their game?

    I guess the main problem is, Sky is only about 2 or 3 years too slow into reacting with all their other issues, competition etc, so they will need to act quickly to get a plan in place going forward, problem is, they have still got their dinosaur blame everyone else at the helm until a new CEO is found.

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  • PaekakboyzP Offline
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    Sky also pack in shitloads of their own ads under the guise of 'telling us about their other great content'. Bullshit. Not to mention paying extra for HD.

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    #124

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/102655628/game-on-for-sports-rights-as-sky-tv-kicks-short-on-world-cup

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  • BovidaeB Offline
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    @paekakboyz

    I'm referring to ads during games. That's what Ch.9 does with the RL with Warren's "welcome back" spiel. Remember the outcry with the Sky TV ad immediately after the haka?

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    replied to taniwharugby on last edited by
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    @taniwharugby

    I'm not going to defend Sky as they have been really slow with their uptake of new technology but the avid sports fan might get quite a shock if the situation eventuates where we have to pay different companies (Sky, Amazon, etc) to watch different sports. That will be more expensive than a single source of sport with one account.

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  • NepiaN Offline
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    Just some random thoughts on this associated issue.

    In Oz, so Foxtel instead of Sky, but I much prefer watching sport broadcast via satellite on my TV then via the internet as the motion always seems a bit weird to me.

    We always whinge about pay tv in these threads but I think we're forgetting how crap things were in the old days of one delayed televised game a week. I think the NZR should keep this in mind too.

    They may be a dinosaur but until the other options start buying and providing all the content they're a necessary evil.

    I really don't want to get to the point where I have to get 4 different internet subscriptions just to get my rugby fix.

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    @nepia I echo those sentiments. Sky costs me over $100 a month with multi room, etc but it has everything sports wise and I can record on my own decoders.

    The real problem comes when they lose content (sports mostly). I won't be interested and will be forced into the multi subscription thing. I already have netflix and lightbox but how many more? And when is it going to become PPV? All of that is a pain in the bum. I don't like Sky as a monopoly, or a company, but the alternative doesn't look good.

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    @bovidae fuck yeah I remember that! bastards. lol wasn't it for Bunnings?

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  • NepiaN Offline
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    @snowy Damn, over a $100 a month? That sucks. I only pay $39 (I always renegotiate with Telstra as I have my Fox through them, when they do a deal for new customers and get the same price, no multiroom but don't need it) but I only get sports, no movies, doco channels, or prestige TV etc.

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  • StargazerS Offline
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    @nepia I pay $ 108.62 for Sky basic + Sports package + Rugby Channel. No multi room. It's insane.

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  • HoorooH Offline
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    #132

    Ours was $140 until last month when they reduced the costs. Not sure what it is at the moment but will see next time the bill is emailed

    That included Soho, Sports and Movies. No rugby channel

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  • NepiaN Offline
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    replied to Stargazer on last edited by
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    @stargazer When did Sky get so expensive? I never paid close to that when I had it.

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  • BovidaeB Offline
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    #134

    My new bill was ~$97 for Starter, Entertainment, Sports, Rugby Channel and HD ticket. I don't waste money on the magazine. Having SoHo free now is good as I refused to pay for it.

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  • SnowyS Offline
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    @nepia said in Sky TV:

    @snowy Damn, over a $100 a month? That sucks. I only pay $39 (I always renegotiate with Telstra as I have my Fox through them, when they do a deal for new customers and get the same price, no multiroom but don't need it) but I only get sports, no movies, doco channels, or prestige TV etc.

    Therein lies the problem. If you want sports you have to buy the basic package.

    Sky also do deals for new customers - existing customers can get fucked apparently. Hence my hatred for them - also a necessary evil for me. Rocks and hard places are a regular spot for me with Sky.

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  • KirwanK Offline
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    #136

    Basic has been split up now, so you can get starter for $25 and sport for I think $29.95. So that’s as cheap as you can get (without HD) and have sports.

    It really is a ripoff.

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  • taniwharugbyT Offline
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    #137

    I ditched multi-room and got Netflix.

    I'd ditch sky all together but the wife says there is stuff on their (old) basic package she watches all the time.

    @Bovidae Yeah I think there are big changes on the horizon, I assume Sky own the company that does the games, cant recall their name, so will they contract to TVNZ or will TVNZ do all their own broadcasting given as we have seen when watching rugby in some other countries, the TV production isn't that great, whereas sky seems pretty god at that part of thie rjob.

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  • StargazerS Offline
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    #138

    Sky has - and I've only just noticed it (is it new?) - sneakily made some changes.

    You now pay separately for

    • the minimum package that everyone must pay for (Sky Starter): $ 24.91
      (The old Sky Basic includes both Sky Starter and Sky Entertainment: $ 49.91)
    • the packages you want to subscribe to in addition to Sky Starter. Sky Sport, for example, is $ 29.90
    • additional channels; for example, the Rugby Channel costs $ 8.81
    • Sky Box: only enables you to watch live tv (no recording): $ 0.00
    • My Sky: the ability to watch, pause, rewind and record live tv programmes, games etc.: $ 15.00
    • My Sky +: up to 4 times the recording capacity of My Sky: $20.00
    • Multi room (costs vary, depending on whether you want a Sky Box, My Sky or My Sky +, and the number you want)
    • High definition: add $ 9.99
    • Sky Watch magazine: add $ 2.66

    All these prices are without GST.

    I only now realise that I'm no longer just paying for my packages, but also for the ability to record with My Sky. Geez, I should look at my invoices better! They even mention on my current invoice the item "storage", whatever that means. No idea how much they charge for that. I hope it's included in the cost of My Sky.

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  • NepiaN Offline
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    wrote on last edited by
    #139

    Things seemed to have reversed with Oz.

    I remember maybe 10 years back when a mate of mine moved over to Oz and we hooked up Fox while I was staying with him and it was way more expensive than my Sky package I had at home, with lots less content.

    What @Stargazer has shown maybe does show they're out of touch. I think I've been swayed and I'm joining the pitch fork brigade.

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