Beer thread
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Any opinions on the Moa Original pilsner?<br />
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To be honest I haven't drunk Moa since they re-styled and embarked on their public offering and world branding (courtesy of the founding 42 Below Vodka guys). Nothing against them, or the beer (which IIRC was quite nice). It's just where they have positioned themselves in the market. They are aiming at a 'premium' market with very classy looking bottles and the price to match. The pricing just doesn't give value for money to me. The beer is very good but not OMG good. The recipes are quality but not overly interesting that you would pay more to try something different.<br />
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I think that, as a business, they are going to do well as they have seen a market for a 'classy' beer at a premium price and will establish themselves in the world market before selling out to a major player and pocketing the profits (very much like the 42 Below re-run). -
8 wired haywired wheat beer. As a fan of wheat beers I was a bit disappointed with this...<br />
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Yeastie boys hud-a-wa strong, very hoppy aroma but pleasently surprised with the soft fruity flavour, not as fizzy as most beers but worked -
8 wired haywired wheat beer. As a fan of wheat beers I was a bit disappointed with this...<br />
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Yeastie boys hud-a-wa strong, very hoppy aroma but pleasently surprised with the soft fruity flavour, not as fizzy as most beers but worked -
I find wheat beers in this part of the world a bit odd. They almost try and over-do it and get it wrong. They taste nothing like the German ones at all, and have got too many other ingredients in it to try and differentiate it from the rest. Went over for a jaunt in Aussie recently and found the same thing with their smaller craft breweries, there were only two I liked of the six or so I tried. <br />
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Tried a few different other beers while I was over there, but I guess most of them aren't available in NZ. Little Creatures is always a nice place to go for a feed and a beer. They've got one in Ric***nd (Melbourne) now, which I enjoyed a lunch session at.<br />
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[quote name='dogmeat' timestamp='1355818168' post='333004']<br />
I drink craft almost exclusively. Its like wine. It's hard to go back to the cheaper stuff once you develop a taste.<br />
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I also quite like that it makes me drink less.<br />
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Same here. I now drink less beer (more red wine) but will always try to buy half dozen packs of new beer compared to boxes of same old. -
Knocked back a couple of Moa breakfast beers. Supposedly a European style breakfast beer. After tasting this (pretty light and very fruity) I can see how this would go well with sausages and eggs for breakfast.<br />
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Not sure why it is bottled with a cork rather than a cap though... -
There's quite a few bars around Wellington that have a really good range of craft beer on tap. Of the ones I've been to lately - Bin 44 (opposite the Events Centre), Little Beer Quarter, and Meow (both up in a lane at the top end of Manners Street).<br />
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If you like your hoppy strong beers, Tuatara have just released Conehead green hopped IPA. Very tasty. -
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well, hasn't the NZ boutique brewery market just exploded? jesus, but there is suddenly a lot of range in the market. I think i tried a lot of the Pale Ale and Pilseners on offer. In my mind, the vast majority were seriously over priced, and not actually that good. For instance, i liked the Emersons, but it definitly didn't have "sessionability".<br />
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I kept going to bars where my choice was 11-12 dollar bottles of craft beer. fuck off.<br />
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Monteiths Pilsener, for all the competition on the market, is still my favourite NZ beer. And i would take "150 Lashes" over any of them. -
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well, hasn't the NZ boutique brewery market just exploded? jesus, but there is suddenly a lot of range in the market. I think i tried a lot of the Pale Ale and [b]Pilseners [/b]on offer. In my mind, the vast majority were seriously over priced, and not actually that good. For instance, i liked the Emersons, but it definitly didn't have "sessionability".<br />
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I kept going to bars where my choice was 11-12 dollar bottles of craft beer. fuck off.<br />
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Monteiths Pilsener, for all the competition on the market, is still my favourite NZ beer. And i would take "150 Lashes" over any of them.<br />
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I've had some decent beers that were labelled as Pilsners, but they didn't really taste like pilsners. More like an American IPA or something. -
They definitly don't taste like european pilseners anyway. i have found that, on both sides of the Ta$man, there is very little difference between the tastes of the Pilseners and Pale Ales. In most cases, the Pilsener is just more bitter.<br />
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I am not saying they are bad, i just don't think they are worthy of the price, just so you can appear to be a bit cultured. -
IMO they definitely aren't as good as nice euro pilsners or kolsches. They also tend to give me a bit of a headache, and I find them a bit heavy after a couple.<br />
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Am looking at doing a bohemian brewery tour later this year. That should be pilsner heaven. <img src='http://www.daimenhutchison.com/rugby/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' /> -
What are you guys after in a Pilsner? There are different styles within Europe with the 'original' Bohemian style being more bitter (Saaz Hops); the Czech style which is lighter and a generic Euro style (which is really just your bog standard Euro lager).<br />
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The NZ ones tend to be of the Bohemian style but they often confuse matters by mixing in other hop varieties than just Saaz, or in some cases no Saaz at all.<br />
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Tuatara uses Pacific Jade. Motueka, Nelson Sauvin, and Riwaka.<br />
Croucher uses Motueka and Riwaka<br />
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Both of these beers are nice to drink but if you are after a taste the same as a brew from Bohemia then they will be different just because of the differing hop flavours.<br />
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I doubt you'd find many craft brewed Pilsners in NZ that only use Saaz, and for good reason. They wouldn't differ much from the Bohemian variety as the would be using the same malt, same hops, same yeast. The only difference would be the water softness/ hardness. <br />
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I've done the Pilsener Urquell brewery tour in Pilzn, good tour. Part of it is down in the original cellars, where they still brew a batch the "traditional" way. Actually tasted pretty good.<br />
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mmmmmmmmmmm tasty looking<br />
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I do love a Lion Brown.<br />
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[b] Lion Brown lovers pledge lifetime loyalty [/b]<br />
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BROWN'S BEST: The Lion Brown Ambassadors celebrate their annual awards at Western Park this weekend, dressed in mandatory brown formal wear.<br />
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[b] [/b]While gentlemen's clubs around the world seem to have fallen into a decline, there's one that looks set to stand the test of time.<br />
They call themselves the Lion Brown Ambassadors.<br />
About 50 shades of brown gathered at New Plymouth's Western Park on Saturday evening to celebrate the club's annual awards ceremony.<br />
The group was founded in 2002 when Taranaki boys Michael Barnes and Scott Ireland, along with friend Ben Potaka, developed a love for the drop while working as chiller stackers in Wellington.<br />
When their close-knit group of friends dispersed after university, holding an annual event in honour of Brown became a good way to get the boys back together.<br />
Since then, members from around the globe have been accepted into the association which lives for the slogan, "Don't put down the Brown".<br />
While Ireland said it was a good excuse to get away from your day-to-day duties once a year and reunite with like-minded people, member Josh Cairns took it far more seriously.<br />
"It is a privilege. It's an association that's filled with men of character and it's a privilege to be able to hang out with them."<br />
Some of those "men of character" include first-class rugby players Conrad Smith and Jason Eaton.<br />
Sporting activities or "Brown events" are also held yearly, but this weekend was all about honouring the good work of ambassadors.<br />
The supreme award, or Lion Brown Ambassador of the Year, went to Auckland member James Kennedy-Good, for his work in Afghanistan with the New Zealand Army.<br />
To be accepted as a member, one must be nominated by an existing member. Anyone has the right to veto the nomination.<br />
Mr Ireland said key qualities sought included good storytelling abilities, being a general good guy, and most importantly - commitment. "If you're in it, you're in it forever. You'll travel to awards, you'll go here or there or everywhere."<br />
When asked what the possibilities were for letting a female into the club, the idea was quickly shut down.<br />
"The short answer to that would be no," Mr Ireland said. "The events are tailored much more to the male I think."<br />
With more than 60 members, Mr Cairns said the main goal was to see the group still thriving when they were in their 80s.<br />
"Every year the new members are younger, so that will keep us old buggers young," Mr Ireland added. "Eventually we'll start living our life through them, I suppose."<br />
To the critics who look down on the group for appreciating this particular beer, Mr Cairns said: "Don't put down the Brown. It's very sessionable. It's the kind of beer you want to have when you want to have more than three or four beers."<br />
And although they live and breathe Brown, from time to time, society does demand they drink others.<br />
"But I would always have Brown in my fridge at home. I would feel bad if an ambassador came to my house for a barbecue and I could not provide him with Brown," Mr Cairns said.
