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  • KiwiMurphK Offline
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    #26

    Southby quits. Sounds like effective immediately.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/netball/105651613/janine-southby-resigns-as-silver-ferns-coach

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    Southby has resigned!

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    Huzzah!

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    #29

    Worse NZ international coach ever.

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    #30

    @virgil to be fair she's unlucky that Tana is in the domestic category...

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    replied to Virgil on last edited by Sneakdefreak
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    @virgil At least she wasn't saying "the key is the we".

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    Good riddance. She was a stupid pick from the start, well out of her depth, and clearly the players hated her. You are never going to win anything with that kind of locker room atmosphere.

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    @virgil Thou hast a very short memory when it comes to the Kiwis...

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  • canefanC Offline
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    #34

    @stargazer said in Netball:

    Southby has resigned!

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    At least she did the right thing and fell on her sword. Now for the board to follow her out the door

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    The key is in the we!! oh, hold on. Wrong sport, wrong coach!

    Gets some kudos from me for stepping down, especially if there was any truth to NZ Netball not being able to ditch her and afford the payout. If the payout story is hot air then she's just jumped before being fired.

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    #36

    http://www.netballnz.co.nz/news/detail/netball-new-zealand-announces-review-findings

    Here's the link to the summary of the review.

    It's only four pages and quite interesting - especially the paragraph (6) describing the culture Southby tried to implement, which sounds good in theory; the broader observations about high performance culture; and what NNZ proposes to do to address the shortcomings.

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    #37

    @chris-b that reads like quite a sanitised summary. Certainly not much sniff of a player v coach divide, aside from the points about a player-centric focus not working for a largely junior squad. But probably not much value in explicitly stating that when you can read between the lines.

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    #38

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    "Get NTB on the phone "

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    replied to Paekakboyz on last edited by Chris B.
    #39

    @paekakboyz They do note that the group "fractured" and paras 8 & 10 are fairly to the point in that regard.

    Language in these sorts of reviews are usually pretty dispassionate and usually avoids unconstructive personal criticism, so it's not really surprising.

    I guess, the point is to work out what went wrong and how to fix it rather than hanging people (Southby) out to dry.

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    #40

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12093183

    Sounds like the team wanted stronger leadership and direction from the coach

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    #41

    Just as well Southby realised the gig was up, even if it took a while... Another classic "interviewed well" gone wrong - not a phenomenon unique to sports!

    Reading the article, I get the impression that while Southby wasn't ready yet, the Board and players need to take a long, hard look at themselves.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/netball/105662398/no-silver-bullet-for-silver-ferns-after-two-years-of-wrong-turns-by-netball-nz

    This provides some commentary on the report, but to me, the most telling quote from the report I came across is "Netball in New Zealand continues to struggle to embrace a true high performance culture - the no compromises, no shortcuts philosophy so much a part of many elite sports in not yet ingrained deeply enough within netball in New Zealand". To make matters worse, the chair from 2008 said that a review back then identified a similar issue.

    Might be time for more players to stop making excuses and step up.

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    #42

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12093879

    So the coach was doing a great job, allowing the players to lead, but the assistant acknowledges they knew the playing group lacked experience..... 🤔 so why then are we here? 🙄

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    @canefan That strategy might have worked well when they had Casey and Laura and Irene etc, but this squad didn't have that calibre of player or leader. I actually felt sorry for Maria in the shooting circle, having to be GS and GA because that other chick couldn't hit the side of a barn. The midcourt was a shambles too, way too often we would get a turnover in the opposition goal circle, only for it to be fucked up in the centre third.

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    @mokey said in Netball:

    @canefan That strategy might have worked well when they had Casey and Laura and Irene etc, but this squad didn't have that calibre of player or leader. I actually felt sorry for Maria in the shooting circle, having to be GS and GA because that other chick couldn't hit the side of a barn. The midcourt was a shambles too, way too often we would get a turnover in the opposition goal circle, only for it to be fucked up in the centre third.

    Exactly. The coach has to recognize what she has to work with, not use an approach she learned and uses as a one size fits all

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    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/netball/106206132/laura-langman-casey-kopua-recalls-set-to-headline-silver-ferns-squad

    Sounds promising

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