30 Day Paleo Challenge

JK

Free eggs are gooood! And those home eggs are way better than the crap we buy in the shops.
 
I was going through about 30-35 a week for a while last year but not all the yolks of course.

Nepia

Could I elbow my way into this thread for some advice (hopefully you don't mind Kirwan).
 
I'm pretty good with meals (I can eat just veges and meat stir fry every day) but can you blokes recommend 'snacks' that will fight off my craving for sugar? I'm a sugar junkie, as long as it's processed (for example chocolate and lollies rather than fruits), and every time I try to eat better I always wind up back on the sugars (obviously I have very little will power ;)) so really need something to eat as a replacement snack. I have nuts and cold meats quite often but find they don't always work.
 
Moosh - I eat eggs quite often but find they make me feel hungry full - I'm not sure how I explain that, I feel full in the gut but it doesn't stop hunger cravings I guess.

taniwharugby

nuts are best...maybe it depends which ones you are eating??
 
They sell a number of different packs which come with a number of different nuts in them.
 
These are pretty good, I usualy have a bag of chocolate covered raisins with this as well and usually lasts me 4-5 days as a 'snack' and have them sitting on my desk.
 
<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.motherearth.co.nz/nz/our-range/deluxe-mix-nuts/'>http://www.motherearth.co.nz/nz/our-range/deluxe-mix-nuts/</a>
 
WARNING; These packs may contain nuts!

Milk

My favourite paleo dish is Paleo Cottage Pie (with mashed cauliflower)
eg <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.theclothesmakethegirl.com/2010/12/28/paleo-comfort-food-cottage-flower-pie/'>http://www.theclothesmakethegirl.com/2010/12/28/paleo-comfort-food-cottage-flower-pie/</a>
 
I usually freeze some servings for easy meals later.
 
Also, Buffalo wings were my dish to try and achieve sense of normalcy when needing something to look forward to for the weekend, ie eat during the rugby game, etc.

antipodean

I recommend not eating raisins - they're loaded with sugar.
 
Here's a list of <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://greatist.com/health/paleo-recipes-list'>paleo style snacks/ recipes</a>.

Nepia

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My favourite paleo dish is Paleo Cottage Pie (with mashed cauliflower)
eg <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.theclothesmakethegirl.com/2010/12/28/paleo-comfort-food-cottage-flower-pie/'>http://www.theclothesmakethegirl.com/2010/12/28/paleo-comfort-food-cottage-flower-pie/</a>
 
I usually freeze some servings for easy meals later.
 
Also, Buffalo wings were my dish to try and achieve sense of normalcy when needing something to look forward to for the weekend, ie eat during the rugby game, etc.
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Hee hee I laughed when I opened that age and saw the title. Then I despaired as she removed all the good stuff from the pie. :(
 
 
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nuts are best...maybe it depends which ones you are eating??
 
They sell a number of different packs which come with a number of different nuts in them.
 
These are pretty good, I usualy have a bag of chocolate covered raisins with this as well and usually lasts me 4-5 days as a 'snack' and have them sitting on my desk.
 
<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.motherearth.co.nz/nz/our-range/deluxe-mix-nuts/'>http://www.motherearth.co.nz/nz/our-range/deluxe-mix-nuts/</a>
 
WARNING; These packs may contain nuts
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I usually buy the raw ones of those, just the nuts none of the fancy raisin or berries or chocolate pieces ones.
 
 
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I recommend not eating raisins - they're loaded with sugar.
 
Here's a list of <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://greatist.com/health/paleo-recipes-list'>paleo style snacks/ recipes</a>.
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Cheers. What is it with all these cauliflower recipes - does it actually work as a rice replacement, popcorn replacement, potato replacement etc?

taniwharugby

yeah the chocolate pieces and choc raisins are usually first to go from my 'snacks' so I just as well not have them to fight off the sugar cravings :)
 
Drink more water too!

Milk

<blockquote class='ipsBlockquote' data-author="Nepia" data-cid="412464" data-time="1391052820">Hee hee I laughed when I opened that age and saw the title. Then I despaired as she removed all the good stuff from the pie. :( 
 
 
I usually buy the raw ones of those, just the nuts none of the fancy raisin or berries or chocolate pieces ones. 
 
 
Cheers. What is it with all these cauliflower recipes - does it actually work as a rice replacement, popcorn replacement, potato replacement etc?</blockquote>
 
Replacement for potato, yeah. I've also used it to replace the rice in fried rice. 
 
Naturally, it's not as good as the real thing. That being said, that cottage pie is genuinely delicious.

Nepia

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Replacement for potato, yeah. I've also used it to replace the rice in fried rice. 
Naturally, it's not as good as the real thing. That being said, that cottage pie is genuinely delicious.
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There is way too much effort and ingredients going into that cottage pie! I should also have mentioned I hating cooking as well. :)
 
I like cauliflower on it's own and don't really need a rice or potato replacement TBH. If there's a cauliflower chocolate replacement I'll be all over it like white on cauliflower.

Paekakboyz

cut cauliflower into smaller florets, drizzle with some olive oil, a bit of salt and pepper and a decent covering of smoked paprika. Bake at 160-170 till it starts to caramelise then finish with a squeeze of lemon juice. It's the business!
 
Aren't we all a bunch of new age men-folk!! I love cooking and there are obviously some talented and created cooks on the fern. Good stuff.

Paekakboyz

Stuffed capsicums could be a goer, especially if stuffed taters are off the menu. Nice and easy to make too.

Nepia

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Stuffed capsicums could be a goer, especially if stuffed taters are off the menu. Nice and easy to make too.
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Yeah, I love me some capsicum ... they're quite pricey at the moment though. 
 
Will try your baked cauliflower recipe, seems easy and I've never had baked cauliflower before!

NTA

Sugar snacking is a bastard for me. the only thing that works 100% is my motto of "Stop At Zero". Having even one sugary thing seems to erode my willpower like a dam bursting. And it starts at breakfast - while I'm on the oats at the moment, I find I was much less susceptible to cravings when I have no carbs or sugars at all e.g. bacon, eggs, bit of hard cheese.

Quo vadis

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Sugar snacking is a bastard for me. the only thing that works 100% is my motto of "Stop At Zero". 
Having even one sugary thing seems to erode my willpower like a dam bursting. 
And it starts at breakfast - while I'm on the oats at the moment, I find I was much less susceptible to cravings when I have no carbs or sugars at all e.g. bacon, eggs, bit of hard cheese.
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Oats? Oats will spike your blood sugar faster than table sugar. Very high glycaemic index food are oats, eat a big bowl of oats for breakfast and watch your blood glucose go sky high, then crash as your insulin kicks in and then at 10 am you are crashing and getting a serious case of the munchies and craving sugar. Oats also contains prolamines (another plant protein - which too are hard digest and can irritate your gut.)
Cheap and easy breakfast I know, but not without a risk.
 
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I recommend not eating raisins - they're loaded with sugar.
 
Here's a list of <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://greatist.com/health/paleo-recipes-list'>paleo style snacks/ recipes</a>.
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indeed, Raisins are little sugar bombs and huge fructose load. Fructose being the hardest saccharide for the human body to digest - has to go the liver first then get converted to glucose.
<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/oct/21/fructose-poison-sugar-industry-pseudoscience'>http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/oct/21/fructose-poison-sugar-industry-pseudoscience</a> One "sugar is evil campaigner" is Dr Robert Lustig, he's a strong voice against fructose.
High Fructose Corn syrup HFCS , being a hot topic.
 
 
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nuts are best...maybe it depends which ones you are eating??
 
They sell a number of different packs which come with a number of different nuts in them.
 
These are pretty good, I usualy have a bag of chocolate covered raisins with this as well and usually lasts me 4-5 days as a 'snack' and have them sitting on my desk.
 
<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.motherearth.co.nz/nz/our-range/deluxe-mix-nuts/'>http://www.motherearth.co.nz/nz/our-range/deluxe-mix-nuts/</a>
 
WARNING; These packs may contain nuts!
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You really have to watch nut consumption. Its an easy way to fall into a trap and overeat and take in a lot of calories. 
Almonds - eat raw unroasted -its very hard to eat a lot this way, but with Salted and roasted are far too easy to eat, food palpability is huge aspect to why the Western World is getting fat. 
"The Food reward Hypothesis" <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.jp/2011/10/case-for-food-reward-hypothesis-of.html'>http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.jp/2011/10/case-for-food-reward-hypothesis-of.html</a>
It's very interesting stuff The food reward hypothesis of obesity states that the reward (reinforcing, motivational) and hedonic (pleasure, palatability) value of food influence food intake and body fatness, contributing to the development of obesity.
 
Peanuts, aren't technically nuts and are the worst of the "nuts" - they have a high lectin load (lectin being a carbohydrate binding protein found in plants and are difficult for the human digestion to process, and over time it can weaken the digestive system and lead down a slippery slope. Interestingly one of the worst lectins in nature? Ricin!) and peanuts are susceptible to mycotoxins - which are bad news.
 
Macadamias are good.
I sprinkle some walnuts on my salads, meals like a crouton substitute.
 
One issue with nuts is the high ratio of omega 6 to omega 3 fats. You ideally want less omega 6 and more omega 3 fats in your life.
 
 
 
 
 
4 years ago I was Alice in Wonderland and followed the food rabbit down the hole and it's a very deep and neverending hole!

Nepia

10pm and I'm jonesing for some sugar!!! I'm going to have to eat some nuts to try and stop myself from getting in my car and driving to the supermarket!

taniwharugby

The nuts I have are usually raw def unsalted, and I have one bag (250g??) which tend to last a week. 
almonds, Brazil nuts, pistachios, cashews, walnuts, macadamias are usually in the pack I get.

mooshld

Yeah NTA is right sadly Nepia the easy way is to muster up the will power and not do it. The pin in hole in the dam analogy is a good one.
 
I now take some very dark chocolate if I want a sugary snack. 72% Cacao minimum you can only handle a few squares of it as its so rich. 
 
Mooshld

Nepia

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The nuts I have are usually raw def unsalted, and I have one bag (250g??) which tend to last a week. 
almonds, Brazil nuts, pistachios, cashews, walnuts, macadamias are usually in the pack I get.
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Thats the one I get, I don't really care for the cashews and macadamias too much.
 
 
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Yeah NTA is right sadly Nepia the easy way is to muster up the will power and not do it. The pin in hole in the dam analogy is a good one.
 
I now take some very dark chocolate if I want a sugary snack. 72% Cacao minimum you can only handle a few squares of it as its so rich. 
 
Mooshld
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I just have terrible will power! It sucks ....

JK

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Oats? Oats will spike your blood sugar faster than table sugar. Very high glycaemic index food are oats, eat a big bowl of oats for breakfast and watch your blood glucose go sky high, then crash as your insulin kicks in and then at 10 am you are crashing and getting a serious case of the munchies and craving sugar. Oats also contains prolamines (another plant protein - which too are hard digest and can irritate your gut.)
Cheap and easy breakfast I know, but not without a risk.
 
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Are you sure about this? Rolled oats in NZ (and Aus) are usually in the 50-59 GI range which is not really what I would call very high (quick oats would be a bit higher for sure). Table sugar isnt actually that high either though contrary to what many think. Both would be moderate GI in my view.
 
I have 40grams of oats with 50grams whey at 8am every morning and dont get any of these cravings or crashes. Hardly even hungry at 11am when my next meal takes place.

NTA

I always have the oats that come in a packet - easiest way to attain portion control, and as I use the ones with honey already added, I don't need to modify them in any way. Boil some water, add and stir. Wait 90 seconds. Use the rest of the hot water for a coffee. Breakfast in under two minutes and out the door.

The Silver Fern

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