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@bones ctrl+c = copy
ctrl+v = pasteIf you're an applefag ctrl has a different name.
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@mariner4life said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@antipodean said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
I'm a firm believer that driving is partially observed behaviour. If you've been brought up by a couple of generations of drivers, you observe and adopt. However, being the first generation to progress from riding a cow or herding goats makes it entirely a new phenomenon.
That being said, despite watching Chinese create five lanes of traffic in Shanghai where three lanes were clearly painted on the road, I saw a surprisingly small amount of accidents. Perhaps they export their shit drivers?
that was my impression too. The roads there look like carnage, but there are so few accidents. They have the ability to take small gaps, use their horn to make sure everyone knows they are there, and don't get pissed because someone has the audacity to merge in front of them.
Maybe the fact that most Australasian drivers are aggressive dicks is what puts them off?
Yeah for part of my recent stay in Melbourne I was opposite a massive intersection. So much fucken honking. I then realised that most of the honking was people behind the person at the front of the lights, jumping on the horn angrily as soon as the light turned green. Happened all the bloody time and I started to notice it quite a lot walking around town.
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@antipodean said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@bones ctrl+c = copy
ctrl+v = pasteIf you're an applefag ctrl has a different name.
Oh right! I've never seen a keyboard like that before.
Shit joke, I'm sure they'd use Windows. Apple is for creative types isn't it?
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@bones said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@antipodean said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@bones ctrl+c = copy
ctrl+v = pasteIf you're an applefag ctrl has a different name.
Oh right! I've never seen a keyboard like that before.
Shit joke, I'm sure they'd use Windows. Apple is for creative types isn't it?
Hahahaha nice
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@nepia said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
If the stereotype about Asian/Indian drivers was actually true no one would ever get out of Sydney airport by road due to all the crashes because ever cab /Uber/Ola driver is Asian/Indian (or Arab).
@mariner4life said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
Merging in Australasia is the worst part of driving. Fuckwits who simply won't let people in, slowing down two lanes of traffic. Fuckwits like the ones you describe. Fuckwits who don't look.
Yeah, that seems to be a SH thing, NZ is the same, whereas in Europe there's no issues with merging.
That's because drivers in Europe are considerate
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Well it's hardly going to be a single fire raging across both islands
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@antipodean said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
That being said, despite watching Chinese create five lanes of traffic in Shanghai where three lanes were clearly painted on the road, I saw a surprisingly small amount of accidents. Perhaps they export their shit drivers?
This was my theory also - after having lived in China for a while - and one of my favourite hobbies being just watching the traffic carnage each evening rush-hour,
and spending a bit of time in India - including going for a ride out of Delhi
and riding in Cambodia (Phnom Penh is up there with Chinese/Indian cities for traffic chaos) - but mostly offroad
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I figured - yeah, but it seems to work for them... not really any accidents.
Until that ride I did in Nepal... and sure - city traffic - chaos, but slow, and no accidents while everybody is just taking every tiny gap, constantly honking horns, etc. Outside of the city though - fuck... you suddenly realise - yeah, there ARE accidents, and a huge number of them - and usually looking pretty horrific. I probably saw half a dozen trucks or buses wrecked on the side of the road, usually looking like they'd happened in the last 48 hours - and one truck-on-bus head-on that had obviously happened about an hour before I got there. -
@bovidae said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
If you want to witness excessive use of the car horn go to Italy. Everyone fuckin' does it.
I was bemused by all the trucks in SE Asia having painted on them "Please use Horn", and such messages,
until you actually hit the road, and realise... the general rule is - you only use your rearview mirror if you hear somebody honk to tell you to do so. And - you never look sideways, even when you're the one joining a larger road/traffic - unless somebody honks to tell you to do so.
If you were cruising down the highway, with right of way, and some prick merged onto it and side-swiped you... they'd be looking at you in confusion, going "why didn't you use your horn to tell me you were there" -
@kruse said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@bovidae said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
If you want to witness excessive use of the car horn go to Italy. Everyone fuckin' does it.
I was bemused by all the trucks in SE Asia having painted on them "Please use Horn", and such messages,
until you actually hit the road, and realise... the general rule is - you only use your rearview mirror if you hear somebody honk to tell you to do so. And - you never look sideways, even when you're the one joining a larger road/traffic - unless somebody honks to tell you to do so.
If you were cruising down the highway, with right of way, and some prick merged onto it and side-swiped you... they'd be looking at you in confusion, going "why didn't you use your horn to tell me you were there"Same in China, the horn is used liberally as a means to tell other people where you are, and to warn. Not to abuse
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@canefan said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@kruse said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@bovidae said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
If you want to witness excessive use of the car horn go to Italy. Everyone fuckin' does it.
I was bemused by all the trucks in SE Asia having painted on them "Please use Horn", and such messages,
until you actually hit the road, and realise... the general rule is - you only use your rearview mirror if you hear somebody honk to tell you to do so. And - you never look sideways, even when you're the one joining a larger road/traffic - unless somebody honks to tell you to do so.
If you were cruising down the highway, with right of way, and some prick merged onto it and side-swiped you... they'd be looking at you in confusion, going "why didn't you use your horn to tell me you were there"Same in China, the horn is used liberally as a means to tell other people where you are, and to warn. Not to abuse
I loved when being driven by private drivers in Delhi.... they knew that the honky cupcakes being driven didn't like the constant noise, so they'd be furiously flashing headlights instead.
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@canefan said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@kruse said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@bovidae said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
If you want to witness excessive use of the car horn go to Italy. Everyone fuckin' does it.
I was bemused by all the trucks in SE Asia having painted on them "Please use Horn", and such messages,
until you actually hit the road, and realise... the general rule is - you only use your rearview mirror if you hear somebody honk to tell you to do so. And - you never look sideways, even when you're the one joining a larger road/traffic - unless somebody honks to tell you to do so.
If you were cruising down the highway, with right of way, and some prick merged onto it and side-swiped you... they'd be looking at you in confusion, going "why didn't you use your horn to tell me you were there"Same in China, the horn is used liberally as a means to tell other people where you are, and to warn. Not to abuse
Don't drivers have eyes?
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@crucial said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@canefan said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@kruse said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@bovidae said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
If you want to witness excessive use of the car horn go to Italy. Everyone fuckin' does it.
I was bemused by all the trucks in SE Asia having painted on them "Please use Horn", and such messages,
until you actually hit the road, and realise... the general rule is - you only use your rearview mirror if you hear somebody honk to tell you to do so. And - you never look sideways, even when you're the one joining a larger road/traffic - unless somebody honks to tell you to do so.
If you were cruising down the highway, with right of way, and some prick merged onto it and side-swiped you... they'd be looking at you in confusion, going "why didn't you use your horn to tell me you were there"Same in China, the horn is used liberally as a means to tell other people where you are, and to warn. Not to abuse
Don't drivers have eyes?
As per above... they have eyes, but they are only ever pointed directly forward, unless you warn them they should be doing otherwise.
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@crucial said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@canefan said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@kruse said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@bovidae said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
If you want to witness excessive use of the car horn go to Italy. Everyone fuckin' does it.
I was bemused by all the trucks in SE Asia having painted on them "Please use Horn", and such messages,
until you actually hit the road, and realise... the general rule is - you only use your rearview mirror if you hear somebody honk to tell you to do so. And - you never look sideways, even when you're the one joining a larger road/traffic - unless somebody honks to tell you to do so.
If you were cruising down the highway, with right of way, and some prick merged onto it and side-swiped you... they'd be looking at you in confusion, going "why didn't you use your horn to tell me you were there"Same in China, the horn is used liberally as a means to tell other people where you are, and to warn. Not to abuse
Don't drivers have eyes?
Yup. But there are so many cars. I guess that's the way they do it. Malaysia too
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@kruse said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@crucial said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@canefan said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@kruse said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@bovidae said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
If you want to witness excessive use of the car horn go to Italy. Everyone fuckin' does it.
I was bemused by all the trucks in SE Asia having painted on them "Please use Horn", and such messages,
until you actually hit the road, and realise... the general rule is - you only use your rearview mirror if you hear somebody honk to tell you to do so. And - you never look sideways, even when you're the one joining a larger road/traffic - unless somebody honks to tell you to do so.
If you were cruising down the highway, with right of way, and some prick merged onto it and side-swiped you... they'd be looking at you in confusion, going "why didn't you use your horn to tell me you were there"Same in China, the horn is used liberally as a means to tell other people where you are, and to warn. Not to abuse
Don't drivers have eyes?
As per above... they have eyes, but they are only ever pointed directly forward, unless you warn them they should be doing otherwise.
Just like London cab drivers then.
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@crucial said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@kruse said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@crucial said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@canefan said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@kruse said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@bovidae said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
If you want to witness excessive use of the car horn go to Italy. Everyone fuckin' does it.
I was bemused by all the trucks in SE Asia having painted on them "Please use Horn", and such messages,
until you actually hit the road, and realise... the general rule is - you only use your rearview mirror if you hear somebody honk to tell you to do so. And - you never look sideways, even when you're the one joining a larger road/traffic - unless somebody honks to tell you to do so.
If you were cruising down the highway, with right of way, and some prick merged onto it and side-swiped you... they'd be looking at you in confusion, going "why didn't you use your horn to tell me you were there"Same in China, the horn is used liberally as a means to tell other people where you are, and to warn. Not to abuse
Don't drivers have eyes?
As per above... they have eyes, but they are only ever pointed directly forward, unless you warn them they should be doing otherwise.
Just like London cab drivers then.
Ah - but they've got eyes in the sides of their fucking head, if they see an arm going up.
Doing my basic motorcycle training - one of the first things I heard and remembered... as a rider, in London, one of the things you've always got to be watching for is some pedestrian just raising their hand... as a cab driver will be coming out of nowhere in 3... 2... 1... bang. -
@kruse said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
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@kruse said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@crucial said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@canefan said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@kruse said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@bovidae said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
If you want to witness excessive use of the car horn go to Italy. Everyone fuckin' does it.
I was bemused by all the trucks in SE Asia having painted on them "Please use Horn", and such messages,
until you actually hit the road, and realise... the general rule is - you only use your rearview mirror if you hear somebody honk to tell you to do so. And - you never look sideways, even when you're the one joining a larger road/traffic - unless somebody honks to tell you to do so.
If you were cruising down the highway, with right of way, and some prick merged onto it and side-swiped you... they'd be looking at you in confusion, going "why didn't you use your horn to tell me you were there"Same in China, the horn is used liberally as a means to tell other people where you are, and to warn. Not to abuse
Don't drivers have eyes?
As per above... they have eyes, but they are only ever pointed directly forward, unless you warn them they should be doing otherwise.
Just like London cab drivers then.
Ah - but they've got eyes in the sides of their fucking head, if they see an arm going up.
Doing my basic motorcycle training - one of the first things I heard and remembered... as a rider, in London, one of the things you've always got to be watching for is some pedestrian just raising their hand... as a cab driver will be coming out of nowhere in 3... 2... 1... bang.Their ability to pull a U-turn from nowhere on a congested Oxford St is quite remarkable.
I must admit that there is no point even trying to ride defensively down there. You are way too busy watching bus wheels, cabs and dopey pedestrians. -
@kruse travelling in a 30 or 40 police escorted convoy from Aswan to Abu Simbel I learned the drivers there play Chinese whispers with thier brakes to let everyone back down the line know a vehicle is coming from the opposite direction, so don't pass.
Passing blind corners in a bus made me pay attention to what was going on in what resembled an episode of wacky races as the bus i.was in passed another on a short straight at 100mph...next minute that bus was passing us and another, then us again and so on
I also learned they had only recently introduced road rules and the signs saying stay right were only recommendations.
