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    @Gunner said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:

    @MN5 said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:

    Doing some drunken googling......Henry Nicholls.....test average 43.54 !!!!!

    Holy shit son.....save some pussy for the rest of the boys. Outstanding.

    I was doing the same the other day.
    Have we ever had a better top 6 in terms of collective averages?

    Raval 34.69
    Latham 41.59
    Williamson 51.44
    Taylor 45.93
    Nicholls 43.54
    Watling 37.74

    In the bad old days we’d be doing well if we had just one averaging in the 40’s and the rest mid to low 30’s plodders.
    Now we’ve got three of them, plus one in the neverland of the 50’s.

    Unreal!

    The closest we got was through the 80s, with Turner then Crowe coinciding with JF Reid then Jones, so two above 44 with another two above 37 for some of it (Wright for all of it and Coney until he retired in 1987).

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    The '04 line-up was the closest I've seen. The difference in the top six basically being Kane and that difference being made up by 7-9 (granted even though both would score runs that year, neither Baz or Vettori were the batsman they would become)

    Richardson 44.77
    Fleming 40.07
    Astle 37.02
    Styris 36.05
    McMillan 38.47
    Oram 36.33
    Then...
    Cairns
    McCullum
    Vettori

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    http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/15433/scorecard/63968/new-zealand-vs-bangladesh-2nd-test-bangladesh-tour-of-new-zealand-2001-02

    After this particular test, Rigor was averaging 54, Chinny 45, Macca and Skippy 43, and Flem 37. Matt Horne in the low 30s.

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    Stuff

    I still think Paddles edges KW as our greatest individual player but, rose tinted glasses or not it has to be pointed out some of his teammates were ordinary. Not a patch on many of today's guys.

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    @MN5 I don't think Kane should be compared to Sir Paddles until he finishes his career.

    If he plays to the same age then he's not even halfway through.

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    @Chris-B said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:

    @MN5 I don't think Kane should be compared to Sir Paddles until he finishes his career.

    If he plays to the same age then he's not even halfway through.

    Even then should he be compared to a bowler? If Kane keeps going on the same trajectory he is going at the moment, I will happily call them equal best. Paddles strike rather was extraordinary.

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    @Chris-B said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:

    @MN5 I don't think Kane should be compared to Sir Paddles until he finishes his career.

    If he plays to the same age then he's not even halfway through.

    I suppose Paddles had the advantage of being a handy batsman but even KW is a more than useful bowler when he turns the arm over.

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    @MN5 @Hooroo Different jobs - different eras.

    Kane will probably play more than twice the number of test Sir Paddles did - but, a lot less first class cricket.

    Received wisdom seems that Kane has already gone past Marty Crowe - but, Marty scored 71 first class centuries - where Kane has just 29 - and that has to be factored into the career equation where the old guys played a lot of non-international first class cricket compared to the guys today.

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    @Chris-B said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:

    @MN5 @Hooroo Different jobs - different eras.

    Kane will probably play more than twice the number of test Sir Paddles did - but, a lot less first class cricket.

    Received wisdom seems that Kane has already gone past Marty Crowe - but, Marty scored 71 first class centuries - where Kane has just 29 - and that has to be factored into the career equation where the old guys played a lot of non-international first class cricket compared to the guys today.

    Sir Paddles has more than 100 first class five-wicket bags.

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    @Chris-B said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:

    @Chris-B said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:

    @MN5 @Hooroo Different jobs - different eras.

    Kane will probably play more than twice the number of test Sir Paddles did - but, a lot less first class cricket.

    Received wisdom seems that Kane has already gone past Marty Crowe - but, Marty scored 71 first class centuries - where Kane has just 29 - and that has to be factored into the career equation where the old guys played a lot of non-international first class cricket compared to the guys today.

    Sir Paddles has more than 100 first class five-wicket bags.

    And Glen Turner did the batting equivalent with centuries......but I think that's only part of the equation when you consider ordinary test batsmen like Graeme Hick, Mark Ramprakash and Mike Gatting did exactly the same.

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    Munro out to a dubious caught decision. Looked to me like the ball hit the ground...

    Anywho 23/1 in the 5th over.

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    @Gunner said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:

    Munro out to a dubious caught decision. Looked to me like the ball hit the ground...

    Anywho 23/1 in the 5th over.

    I'm happy with those calls. They always look dodgy, but there is almost always a finger under the ball. As long as they get called consistently I'm happy-and in fair they are now pretty clear about it

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    54/1 after 8.
    Guptill bashing a few boundaries.
    Williamson doing a Williamson and immediately making scoring at a run a ball look like a walk in the park.

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    The leggie is going to get Guptil

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    135/1 from 23, a very good platform being laid here by these two.

    Guptill 69 (73)
    Kane 51(52)

    Could be some fireworks in the back end of this innings

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    Really is a cracking ground. I have to get there for a game.

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    @Gunner said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:

    Munro out to a dubious caught decision. Looked to me like the ball hit the ground...

    Anywho 23/1 in the 5th over.

    Looked out to me

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    @booboo said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:

    @Gunner said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:

    Munro out to a dubious caught decision. Looked to me like the ball hit the ground...

    Anywho 23/1 in the 5th over.

    Looked out to me

    I agree. He had it and was in control of it

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    @Hooroo said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:

    @booboo said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:

    @Gunner said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:

    Munro out to a dubious caught decision. Looked to me like the ball hit the ground...

    Anywho 23/1 in the 5th over.

    Looked out to me

    I agree. He had it and was in control of it

    You wearing your reading glasses? 😉

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    182/1 from 30 overs.

    Being only one down, they can effectively play it like a T20 innings from here on in.

    Going conservatively at 7's that'll get us up to 322, which should be bare minimum from the position we're in.

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