Jacko
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No doubt since the beginning of pop/rock music a large portion of groupies and fans tend to be young teenage girls. Be easy for a someone to take advantage of that.
You only have to watch ‘Almost Famous’ to see how bands traded and used these girls.Sure, but the selective punishments is what is interesting
Why does Cliff Richard get his house raided and Jimmy Page doesn't? Cliff wasn't found guilty and there's a lot more evidence on Page's ongoing sexual abuse of a 14 year old
Marvin Gaye had a child with a 15 year old, Elvis had a relationship with an underage Priscilla Presley, Jerry Lewis married a 13 year old. There are lots of them who have escaped with little outrage. I guess these are forgotten now, in the current environment anyone who is exposed will be villified
Elvis story is even weirder, he wouldn’t have sex with her so she ended up rooting her karate instructor.
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He stopped having sex with her after she gave birth.
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If anyone mentions Bowie again i am going to cut a bitch...
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No doubt since the beginning of pop/rock music a large portion of groupies and fans tend to be young teenage girls. Be easy for a someone to take advantage of that.
You only have to watch ‘Almost Famous’ to see how bands traded and used these girls.Sure, but the selective punishments is what is interesting
Why does Cliff Richard get his house raided and Jimmy Page doesn't? Cliff wasn't found guilty and there's a lot more evidence on Page's ongoing sexual abuse of a 14 year old
Bill Wyman with a 13 year old Mandy Smith.
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There is also this angle on things re the Jacko film
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@mariner4life said in Jacko:
If anyone mentions Bowie again i am going to cut a bitch...
With a Bowie knife?
I'll get my coat.
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No doubt since the beginning of pop/rock music a large portion of groupies and fans tend to be young teenage girls. Be easy for a someone to take advantage of that.
You only have to watch ‘Almost Famous’ to see how bands traded and used these girls.Sure, but the selective punishments is what is interesting
Why does Cliff Richard get his house raided and Jimmy Page doesn't? Cliff wasn't found guilty and there's a lot more evidence on Page's ongoing sexual abuse of a 14 year old
Bill Wyman with a 13 year old Mandy Smith.
Don Henley with a couple of 16 old hookers
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Jacko:
@mariner4life said in Jacko:
If anyone mentions Bowie again i am going to cut a bitch...
With a Bowie knife?
I'll get my coat.
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No doubt since the beginning of pop/rock music a large portion of groupies and fans tend to be young teenage girls. Be easy for a someone to take advantage of that.
You only have to watch ‘Almost Famous’ to see how bands traded and used these girls.Sure, but the selective punishments is what is interesting
Why does Cliff Richard get his house raided and Jimmy Page doesn't? Cliff wasn't found guilty and there's a lot more evidence on Page's ongoing sexual abuse of a 14 year old
Bill Wyman with a 13 year old Mandy Smith.
Don Henley with a couple of 16 old hookers
Fark that, it's a slippery slope. I think people need to get over themselves; assholes can create great things. Feel free to ignore songs yourself, but leave others to make their own decisions.
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Think it comes down to perception
A rock star ‘entertains’ a willing young teenager who’s infatuated with him vs a man who who invites young boys into his life and takes them into his bed. He does that via manipulation and grooming them
The average person might think those girls were either asking for it or happy to go along with it compared to someone who comes across as more as a predator.
Both instances are wrong of course, no doubt over the years there’s been plenty of young girls used and spat out when these guys have finished with them. -
No doubt since the beginning of pop/rock music a large portion of groupies and fans tend to be young teenage girls. Be easy for a someone to take advantage of that.
You only have to watch ‘Almost Famous’ to see how bands traded and used these girls.Sure, but the selective punishments is what is interesting
Why does Cliff Richard get his house raided and Jimmy Page doesn't? Cliff wasn't found guilty and there's a lot more evidence on Page's ongoing sexual abuse of a 14 year old
Bill Wyman with a 13 year old Mandy Smith.
Don Henley with a couple of 16 old hookers
Fark that, it's a slippery slope. I think people need to get over themselves; assholes can create great things. Feel free to ignore songs yourself, but leave others to make their own decisions.
Hookers should be like bourbon, 20 years old and mixed up with coke
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@mariner4life said in Jacko:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Jacko:
@mariner4life said in Jacko:
If anyone mentions Bowie again i am going to cut a bitch...
With a Bowie knife?
I'll get my coat.
Bowie did a Nazi salute once too
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No doubt since the beginning of pop/rock music a large portion of groupies and fans tend to be young teenage girls. Be easy for a someone to take advantage of that.
You only have to watch ‘Almost Famous’ to see how bands traded and used these girls.Sure, but the selective punishments is what is interesting
Why does Cliff Richard get his house raided and Jimmy Page doesn't? Cliff wasn't found guilty and there's a lot more evidence on Page's ongoing sexual abuse of a 14 year old
Bill Wyman with a 13 year old Mandy Smith.
Don Henley with a couple of 16 old hookers
Christ. He only co-wrote Take it to the Limit. Can I still listen to that?
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Think it comes down to perception
A rock star ‘entertains’ a willing young teenager who’s infatuated with him vs a man who who invites young boys into his life and takes them into his bed. He does that via manipulation and grooming them
The average person might think those girls were either asking for it or happy to go along with it compared to someone who comes across as more as a predator.
Both instances are wrong of course, no doubt over the years there’s been plenty of young girls used and spat out when these guys have finished with them.SO, drug use is OK? I mean, now we're judging some crimes as worthy of being banned, while letting others slide? I dunno, as I said, it's a slippery slope.
How about all the wannabe gangsters (or the actual gangsters). Guns, crime, robbery ... let alone what the farking labels get up to with their evil contracts.
Jacko's interesting too. He's someone that you can point to the crazy upbringing and say it probably had a substantial effect on who he was. I was going to say 'as a person', but he was more alien than human at times.
Finally, what happens to legacy if the offending takes place after the creative endeavour? Someone derails after getting success due to being a musical genius ... is the music 'ok' or 'not ok as you turned into someone we don't like'.
My thoughts are all over the place, but I reckon it's pretty farked
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Think it comes down to perception
A rock star ‘entertains’ a willing young teenager who’s infatuated with him vs a man who who invites young boys into his life and takes them into his bed. He does that via manipulation and grooming them
The average person might think those girls were either asking for it or happy to go along with it compared to someone who comes across as more as a predator.
Both instances are wrong of course, no doubt over the years there’s been plenty of young girls used and spat out when these guys have finished with them.SO, drug use is OK? I mean, now we're judging some crimes as worthy of being banned, while letting others slide? I dunno, as I said, it's a slippery slope.
How about all the wannabe gangsters (or the actual gangsters). Guns, crime, robbery ... let alone what the farking labels get up to with their evil contracts.
Jacko's interesting too. He's someone that you can point to the crazy upbringing and say it probably had a substantial effect on who he was. I was going to say 'as a person', but he was more alien than human at times.
Finally, what happens to legacy if the offending takes place after the creative endeavour? Someone derails after getting success due to being a musical genius ... is the music 'ok' or 'not ok as you turned into someone we don't like'.
My thoughts are all over the place, but I reckon it's pretty farked
Look whatever moral high ground I need to take to get savage garden off the air waves ( and my mrs car stereo ) I’m in .
Also Celine Dion .
And Adele .
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Think it comes down to perception
A rock star ‘entertains’ a willing young teenager who’s infatuated with him vs a man who who invites young boys into his life and takes them into his bed. He does that via manipulation and grooming them
The average person might think those girls were either asking for it or happy to go along with it compared to someone who comes across as more as a predator.
Both instances are wrong of course, no doubt over the years there’s been plenty of young girls used and spat out when these guys have finished with them.SO, drug use is OK? I mean, now we're judging some crimes as worthy of being banned, while letting others slide? I dunno, as I said, it's a slippery slope.
How about all the wannabe gangsters (or the actual gangsters). Guns, crime, robbery ... let alone what the farking labels get up to with their evil contracts.
Jacko's interesting too. He's someone that you can point to the crazy upbringing and say it probably had a substantial effect on who he was. I was going to say 'as a person', but he was more alien than human at times.
Finally, what happens to legacy if the offending takes place after the creative endeavour? Someone derails after getting success due to being a musical genius ... is the music 'ok' or 'not ok as you turned into someone we don't like'.
My thoughts are all over the place, but I reckon it's pretty farked
Look whatever moral high ground I need to take to get savage garden off the air waves ( and my mrs car stereo ) I’m in .
Also Celine Dion .
And Adele .
Stop there mate. You know Adele would buy her round, she's a top bloke.
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Think it comes down to perception
A rock star ‘entertains’ a willing young teenager who’s infatuated with him vs a man who who invites young boys into his life and takes them into his bed. He does that via manipulation and grooming them
The average person might think those girls were either asking for it or happy to go along with it compared to someone who comes across as more as a predator.
Both instances are wrong of course, no doubt over the years there’s been plenty of young girls used and spat out when these guys have finished with them.SO, drug use is OK? I mean, now we're judging some crimes as worthy of being banned, while letting others slide? I dunno, as I said, it's a slippery slope.
How about all the wannabe gangsters (or the actual gangsters). Guns, crime, robbery ... let alone what the farking labels get up to with their evil contracts.
Jacko's interesting too. He's someone that you can point to the crazy upbringing and say it probably had a substantial effect on who he was. I was going to say 'as a person', but he was more alien than human at times.
Finally, what happens to legacy if the offending takes place after the creative endeavour? Someone derails after getting success due to being a musical genius ... is the music 'ok' or 'not ok as you turned into someone we don't like'.
My thoughts are all over the place, but I reckon it's pretty farked
Look whatever moral high ground I need to take to get savage garden off the air waves ( and my mrs car stereo ) I’m in .
Also Celine Dion .
And Adele .
Stop there mate. You know Adele would buy her round, she's a top bloke.
JC is a sad housewife. What's my prize?
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@mariner4life going to bed frustrated.
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@Paekakboyz said in Jacko:
@mariner4life going to bed frustrated.
pffft, everyday is prize day apparently
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@mariner4life don't worry bro, plenty of room for first place on the podium!!
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