Electric Vehicles
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@NTA I didn't mean to say Neste was the answer. My original quote was in response to Musk's apologia which always shits me. Look you morons need to understand we never intended to make money etc. Yeah right. As I said; were the other investors on board? His primary responsibility is to protect the value of those investments over the medium to long term. Which he failed to do. Sure saving the planet (yawn) is great but .....
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@dogmeat said in Electric Vehicles:
@NTA I didn't mean to say Neste was the answer. My original quote was in response to Musk's apologia which always shits me. Look you morons need to understand we never intended to make money etc. Yeah right. As I said; were the other investors on board? His primary responsibility is to protect the value of those investments over the medium to long term. Which he failed to do. Sure saving the planet (yawn) is great but .....
He’s stated from the beginning that the purpose of Tesla was to spark the move from gas to electric. Not Elon’s fault if investors ignored him. A massive clue was open sourcing the patents.
Besides Tesla’s demise has been predicted every year for the six years, and they still going strong.
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@Kirwan said in Electric Vehicles:
@dogmeat said in Electric Vehicles:
@NTA I didn't mean to say Neste was the answer. My original quote was in response to Musk's apologia which always shits me. Look you morons need to understand we never intended to make money etc. Yeah right. As I said; were the other investors on board? His primary responsibility is to protect the value of those investments over the medium to long term. Which he failed to do. Sure saving the planet (yawn) is great but .....
He’s stated from the beginning that the purpose of Tesla was to spark the move from gas to electric. Not Elon’s fault if investors ignored him. A massive clue was open sourcing the patents.
Besides Tesla’s demise has been predicted every year for the six years, and they still going strong.
They are now hitting that crucial 6-10 year phase for their mainstream vehicles which will really see how the company fares. I think the original design looks incredibly dated already, but I cant' comment on the interior as I've not sat in one for a while.
I think they'll survive though, they'll never be a Ford or a GM, but they should easily be able to continue on with their niche to survive.
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@MajorRage exactly, they are aiming firmly at a niche market and pushing the technology forward. The autopilot stuff, the OTA updates that provide new features/improve performance, and just the general inovation alone are great seling points.
If I had a lazy $100,000 lying around (where's Gracie when you need him?) I'd pick one up for sure. Seen a surprising number of them driving around where I live.
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Changing their charging port to suit the standard gun might help.
I would still take the Hyundai on price alone.
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@mariner4life said in Electric Vehicles:
Changing their charging port to suit the standard gun might help.
I would still take the Hyundai on price alone.
As would I BUT my plans for an EV have been dashed in the recent hail storm.
Wife's car - which I was going to to replace with an Ioniq or similar in ~6-12 months - got written off. Problem is we're not ready to jump to the cost of an EV right now so will end up with something else. Fuck it.
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@MajorRage agreed. But it's a pretty big move, and sensible in a lot of ways as they retain their ICEV production capabilities with the option to scale down.
Note also: NO standard hybrids. Unlike Toyota who think that's totally cool and customers don't really want PHEV or BEV
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@gt12 said in Electric Vehicles:
We held off buying a new Mercedes because we heard a rumor this was coming (my wife works for a subsidiary, so we get a good deal). I’m really looking forward to seeing what these are like.
well fucking la-dee-da
#humblebrag
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@jegga said in Electric Vehicles:
I wouldn't* buy a great wall but it'll interesting to see how this stands up long term.
*you can also read that as "cant even afford to"
China are doing electric well. The Great Walls I've seen around - mostly in the medium SUV category like my X-Trail - have space and are cheap. But they're also cheap so hopefully this electric kick is a way for them to get some market share.
Given the wife will have a new car in the next week, looks like I'm going to have to be the guy to grab the family's first EV, and that means something that can go camping
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@NTA said in Electric Vehicles:
@jegga said in Electric Vehicles:
I wouldn't* buy a great wall but it'll interesting to see how this stands up long term.
*you can also read that as "cant even afford to"
China are doing electric well. The Great Walls I've seen around - mostly in the medium SUV category like my X-Trail - have space and are cheap. But they're also cheap so hopefully this electric kick is a way for them to get some market share.
Given the wife will have a new car in the next week, looks like I'm going to have to be the guy to grab the family's first EV, and that means something that can go camping
Manufacturers who make commercial vehicles are normally pretty slow to put the sort of safety gear they put into their passenger vehicles , probably to help keep costs down but even so Great wall have lagged behind the other companies.
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@jegga said in Electric Vehicles:
Manufacturers who make commercial vehicles are normally pretty slow to put the sort of safety gear they put into their passenger vehicles , probably to help keep costs down but even so Great wall have lagged behind the other companies.
All good points, but: camping.
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@NTA said in Electric Vehicles:
@jegga said in Electric Vehicles:
Manufacturers who make commercial vehicles are normally pretty slow to put the sort of safety gear they put into their passenger vehicles , probably to help keep costs down but even so Great wall have lagged behind the other companies.
All good points, but: camping.
Electric conversion kit in this. Ln106 or gtfo.