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  • ChrisC Offline
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    Tom Franklin going to Japan 2020 and beyond the article from Otago Times names all the Highlanders players leaving

    [link text](link url)https://www.odt.co.nz/sport/rugby/highlanders/influx-new-players-needed-replace-those-leaving

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    @Chris There are a lot of assumptions in that article.

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    @Stargazer Yeah Sure but I hear he's off to Japan from a few sources in this article as well
    [link text](link url)https://www.odt.co.nz/sport/rugby/highlanders/departed-highlanders-losing-key-players

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    @Chris Yeah, I just read it in an other article from the ODT. I'll edit the list in my first post.

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    Outside of Retallick and Whitelock do we have any potentially world-class locks coming through?

    It seems -
    Either too light or short for internationals.
    Or big enough (but not workrate, mobility or skills not up to standard)

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    @Yeetyaah said in All Blacks locking stocks post 2019 RWC:

    I'll give my opinion on a few of them based on what I have seen.

    Michael Allardice - Average

    Mitchell Dunshea - Looks good and will only get better in the Crusaders

    Tom Franklin - Good player, I like his style and mostly consistent.

    Josh Goodhue - Average. Could do better at another franchise but would benefit from more game time.

    Laghlan McWhannell - Looked good at NPC level. Needs game time at Super level.

    Pari Pari Parkinson - Massive unit. Hopefully develops well. Needs more game time.

    Luke Romano - Consistent performer. A good option.

    Scot Scrafton - Will benefit with the (rumoured) team change. Looks good though.

    Isaia Walker-Leawere - Decent player. Maybe not big enough?

    The latter is 1.97m / 128 kg so I would rather ask "Maybe not tall enough ?"

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    @cgrant That's what I meant but sure.

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    @Bones said in All Blacks locking stocks post 2019 RWC:

    @Yeetyaah I've obviously seen a bit of Dickson and I think he looks like he has the goods, like Franklin he's a bit undertall though.

    Franklin is listed at 1.99m

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    I’ve got time for Parkinson of all the up and comers. I’d like to see Strange bulk out a little bit more. Definitely bigger than his first Crusaders year, but a bit narrow or something.

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    @shark said in All Blacks locking stocks post 2019 RWC:

    @Bones said in All Blacks locking stocks post 2019 RWC:

    @Yeetyaah I've obviously seen a bit of Dickson and I think he looks like he has the goods, like Franklin he's a bit undertall though.

    Franklin is listed at 1.99m

    shark you've been around the fern long enough to know "listed" heights are quite often plucked out of someones arse.

    Daniel Braid and Jerome Kaino definitely stood on bricks when they were measured.

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    @MN5 said in All Blacks locking stocks post 2019 RWC:

    @shark said in All Blacks locking stocks post 2019 RWC:

    @Bones said in All Blacks locking stocks post 2019 RWC:

    @Yeetyaah I've obviously seen a bit of Dickson and I think he looks like he has the goods, like Franklin he's a bit undertall though.

    Franklin is listed at 1.99m

    shark you've been around the fern long enough to know "listed" heights are quite often plucked out of someones arse.

    Daniel Braid and Jerome Kaino definitely stood on bricks when they were measured.

    The Highlanders list him at 2m. Wikipedia at 1.99m. All Blacks.com at 1.97. So I’ll defer to the median.

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    @shark said in All Blacks locking stocks post 2019 RWC:

    @MN5 said in All Blacks locking stocks post 2019 RWC:

    @shark said in All Blacks locking stocks post 2019 RWC:

    @Bones said in All Blacks locking stocks post 2019 RWC:

    @Yeetyaah I've obviously seen a bit of Dickson and I think he looks like he has the goods, like Franklin he's a bit undertall though.

    Franklin is listed at 1.99m

    shark you've been around the fern long enough to know "listed" heights are quite often plucked out of someones arse.

    Daniel Braid and Jerome Kaino definitely stood on bricks when they were measured.

    The Highlanders list him at 2m. Wikipedia at 1.99m. All Blacks.com at 1.97. So I’ll defer to the median.

    True, they're not all Robert Wadlows.

    We all tend to slouch late in the day.

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    @shark said in All Blacks locking stocks post 2019 RWC:

    @Bones said in All Blacks locking stocks post 2019 RWC:

    @Yeetyaah I've obviously seen a bit of Dickson and I think he looks like he has the goods, like Franklin he's a bit undertall though.

    Franklin is listed at 1.99m

    Yep, many seem unimpressed with sub 2m. Not me, but our 2 current blokes are easily above this.

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    @Bones said in All Blacks locking stocks post 2019 RWC:

    @shark said in All Blacks locking stocks post 2019 RWC:

    @Bones said in All Blacks locking stocks post 2019 RWC:

    @Yeetyaah I've obviously seen a bit of Dickson and I think he looks like he has the goods, like Franklin he's a bit undertall though.

    Franklin is listed at 1.99m

    Yep, many seem unimpressed with sub 2m. Not me, but our 2 current blokes are easily above this.

    I think you need to have at least one bloke of the three in your 23, over 2m. Of course this can be influenced by the heights of your 6 and 8, but as a general rule.

    In saying that, the 2017 Lions’ starting locks were only 1.96-1.98 or so.

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    @shark said in All Blacks locking stocks post 2019 RWC:

    @Bones said in All Blacks locking stocks post 2019 RWC:

    @shark said in All Blacks locking stocks post 2019 RWC:

    @Bones said in All Blacks locking stocks post 2019 RWC:

    @Yeetyaah I've obviously seen a bit of Dickson and I think he looks like he has the goods, like Franklin he's a bit undertall though.

    Franklin is listed at 1.99m

    Yep, many seem unimpressed with sub 2m. Not me, but our 2 current blokes are easily above this.

    I think you need to have at least one bloke of the three in your 23, over 2m. Of course this can be influenced by the heights of your 6 and 8, but as a general rule.

    In saying that, the 2017 Lions’ starting locks were only 1.96-1.98 or so.

    If they win the lineout then who cares ?

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    @shark I'm not that fussed by height, who's to say the shorter lock can't jump higher anyway?

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    @Bones said in All Blacks locking stocks post 2019 RWC:

    @shark I'm not that fussed by height, who's to say the shorter lock can't jump higher anyway?

    If that were the case then why would we predominantly select guys around 2m?

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    @shark said in All Blacks locking stocks post 2019 RWC:

    @Bones said in All Blacks locking stocks post 2019 RWC:

    @shark I'm not that fussed by height, who's to say the shorter lock can't jump higher anyway?

    If that were the case then why would we predominantly select guys around 2m?

    Cos a good big guy is always better than a good little guy.......

    unless it comes to painting bottom skirting boards.

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    @MN5 said in All Blacks locking stocks post 2019 RWC:

    @shark said in All Blacks locking stocks post 2019 RWC:

    @Bones said in All Blacks locking stocks post 2019 RWC:

    @shark I'm not that fussed by height, who's to say the shorter lock can't jump higher anyway?

    If that were the case then why would we predominantly select guys around 2m?

    Cos a good big guy is always better than a good little guy.......

    unless it comes to painting bottom skirting boards.

    Starting reading that last sentence and wondered where you were heading...

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    @shark said in All Blacks locking stocks post 2019 RWC:

    @Bones said in All Blacks locking stocks post 2019 RWC:

    @shark I'm not that fussed by height, who's to say the shorter lock can't jump higher anyway?

    If that were the case then why would we predominantly select guys around 2m?

    Look I don't know what argument you're looking for here, but good point. Why aren't we regularly selecting all the sub 2m locks that are a million times better than our taller ones?

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