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  • DuluthD Offline
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    #1842

    What are the rules about bringing in players for long term injuries?

    Matich was included when two opensides were injured at the start of the year.

    Li was added when Lindenmuth was out

    Why didn't we bring in a back for Perofeta? It was known 1/3 of the way through the season he wasn't going to be fit. Trainor was also out.

    Tupou was unavailable too. Why no extra loosie?

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    @Machpants said in Blues 2019:

    @pukunui yeah it's hard to know where to point the blame, but changes in personnel on the field and coaching box haven't made a difference for years.

    Are you pukunui on ENWorld?

    Nah not me. This is pretty much the only forum im on these days.

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    #1844

    scottscrafton It has been one hell of a ride @bluesrugbyteam #258

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    #1845
    Stuff
    The Blues have finished another season at the bottom of the New Zealand Super Rugby conference and the post-mortem is already underway. 
    
    And it seems everyone - including chief executive Michael Redman - is under the microscope.
    
    A new board and a new coaching group were ultimately unable to prevent the franchise's campaign coming to another disappointing conclusion.
    
    Blowing a 19-point lead against the Hurricanes wasn't how the Blues hoped to end their season.
    
    The match wasn't a reflection of the season for chairman Don Mackinnon, but he pulls no punches in his summary of where the Blues are positioned.
    
    "Firstly, can I say it's not good enough," Mackinnon told Newshub. "Finishing fifth out of five isn't where we're aiming to be.
    
    "We need leaders, no doubt about that. I'm unashamedly going to encourage the organisation to look for talent outside of the region."
    
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    @KiwiMurph good article, echoes my thoughts. I like the board is putting themselves under review as well. For a new board it's living the culture you want.

    I'm eternally hopeful, despite recent losses

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    @nzzp I like the comment about leadership - the team is crying out for some leaders.

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    THe silver lining of another failed season is we can continue the broom in the back office. The CEO and Hanks need to go as well, they are huge parts of the reason why we are in groundhog day here.

    Not sure how the process works with contracts, but we need to fast track moving some of these players on and let Leon put his own stamp on the squad. he clearly doesn't trust the squad based on his selections.

    If that's the case, he's better off getting some rookies and working with those.

    Obvious holes at 2, 9, 13 that need really good recruitment to fill. Plummer needs help with his goalkicking, whats their plan for that?

    Second big test for the new board, do they hold the back office as accountable as the coaches and players? First test was getting rid of Tana, and clearing out the board.

    Wonder how we taking advantage of having the NZRU on our board? Can we open up some overseas selections, or poach from other Super Rugby teams?

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    @Kirwan said in Blues 2019:

    Plummer needs help with his goalkicking

    Plummer was kicking at 54%

    He was a very good kicker in the u20's etc. He seemed to pick up a technical issue in the last NPC when his %age suddenly dropped

    If he raised his kicking %age to the low 70's (liker Black, but still lower than some other primary NZ kickers) a couple of results would probably flip.

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    @KiwiMurph said in Blues 2019:

    "We need leaders, no doubt about that. I'm unashamedly going to encourage the organisation to look for talent outside of the region."

    How are they going to attract these 'leaders'?

    For my mind, leaders are experienced players, they are struggling to attract much frontline up and coming players, let alone attracting established Super rugby players, and leaders at that.

    As with others above, 1st 2 on the chopping block needs to be teflon-Redman and Hanks.

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    @taniwharugby said in Blues 2019:

    How are they going to attract these 'leaders'?

    It's a chicken and egg. We need to be not totally dismal, and have a good environment... then you can get season ticket holders, private sponsors, and enough $$$ to throw at some leadership signings. To be not totally dismal though, you need leaders ....

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    #1852

    Of course, nobody likes being the fifth NZ franchise, but it isn't the biggest problem. To me, it seems, being 13th overall is much worse.

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    @Stargazer said in Blues 2019:

    Of course, nobody likes being the fifth NZ franchise, but it isn't the biggest problem. To me, it seems, being 13th overall is much worse.

    We'll fix that next year when we get to play everyone. Having to play 4 of the gun sides home and away is damn tough

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    @nzzp You mean the year after next. There's still a year left of the Conference system.

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    @KiwiMurph said in Blues 2019:

    @nzzp You mean the year after next. There's still a year left of the Conference system.

    aw crap, really? That's a twisted, broken system that no one understands properly. It's shit, and not in the spirit of rugby.

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    @nzzp Yes, unfortunately. Unless the Sunwolves do us all a favour and pull out early and don't return in 2020 ...

    Super Rugby Future Is 14 Teams

    Super Rugby Future Is 14 Teams
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    #1857
    Jim Kayes  /  Jun 17, 2019  /  Rugby

    Redman in frame for clueless Blues season

    Redman in frame for clueless Blues season

    Canon Rugby in Focus: Jim Kayes trains his sights on elusive Blues chief Michael Redman.

    Redman in crosshairs after another clueless Blues season
    
    Canon Rugby in Focus: Jim Kayes trains his sights on elusive Blues chief Michael Redman.
    
    The text came in just a few minutes after full-time.
    
    “Another clueless season.”
    
    It was from a mate with a vested interest in the Blues being great again. He’s far from encouraged.
    
    It was followed up by another friend who pointed the finger squarely at Blues CEO Michael Redman.
    
    “Six years since they split from Auckland Rugby and he took over. They’ve played 94 games under his watch and lost 57. That’s 60 per cent.
    
    “Crowds down, sponsorship down, membership decimated.”
    
    Redman isn’t talking, at least not until a review of the season has been done, his spokesman said.
    
    It’s not surprising as he’s always been an elusive target for those who believe he should carry some of the blame for years of consistent failure.
    
    When Sir John Kirwan was being sacked with a thousand cuts, Redman was steadfastly absent from media scrums that saw Kirwan have to explain the process around his own eventual demise.
    
    It was embarrassing.
    
    Redman survived a recent revamp of the board and odds are he will survive another year of failure, but that doesn’t make his tenure any less mediocre.
    
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    @KiwiMurph

    "Michael's a very good CEO," said Mackinnon. "I say that without hesitation.

    "He has my full confidence. Will he be part of the review? Absolutely.

    Ah, the old "full confidence of the board" premortem one-liner ...

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    Scotty Stevenson reckons that Doug Howlett will have a role with the Blues organisation.

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  • DuluthD Offline
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    replied to Tim on last edited by
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    @Tim said in Blues 2019:

    Scotty Stevenson reckons that Doug Howlett will have a role with the Blues organisation.

    Did he give any hints about what role? A job in the backroom? Or maybe replacing Halangahu?

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    @Duluth Sounded like backroom.

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