• Categories
Collapse

The Silver Fern

All Black Coach - Ian Foster

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Sports Talk
allblacks
1.2k Posts 93 Posters 110.5k Views
All Black Coach - Ian Foster
    • Oldest to Newest
    • Newest to Oldest
    • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • FrankF Offline
    FrankF Offline
    Frank
    replied to Wurzel on last edited by
    #737

    @Wurzel said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

    So the good oil is that Fozzie has the job with Razor as assistant. It's been made clear to Razor that turning down the gig as Ian's assistant would damage future
    aspirations.

    Link to the good oil please.

    taniwharugbyT sparkyS 2 Replies Last reply
    1
  • taniwharugbyT Offline
    taniwharugbyT Offline
    taniwharugby
    replied to Frank on last edited by
    #738

    @Frank not normally how good oil works around these here parts...

    1 Reply Last reply
    6
  • sparkyS Offline
    sparkyS Offline
    sparky
    replied to Frank on last edited by
    #739

    @Frank said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

    @Wurzel said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

    So the good oil is that Fozzie has the job with Razor as assistant. It's been made clear to Razor that turning down the gig as Ian's assistant would damage future
    aspirations.

    Link to the good oil please.

    @Wurzel is good oil.

    1 Reply Last reply
    0
  • StargazerS Offline
    StargazerS Offline
    Stargazer
    replied to Wurzel on last edited by
    #740

    @Wurzel said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

    So the good oil is that Fozzie has the job with Razor as assistant. It's been made clear to Razor that turning down the gig as Ian's assistant would damage future aspirations.

    NZR know they can't sell Fozzie to the public without a popular figure like Robertson in his camp.

    For how many years? If it's only two years, and then Robertson taking over, that might not be the worst idea.

    P 1 Reply Last reply
    0
  • sparkyS Offline
    sparkyS Offline
    sparky
    replied to Wurzel on last edited by sparky
    #741

    @Wurzel said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

    So the good oil is that Fozzie has the job with Razor as assistant. It's been made clear to Razor that turning down the gig as Ian's assistant would damage future aspirations.

    NZR know they can't sell Fozzie to the public without a popular figure like Robertson in his camp.

    Yep, this has been NZR's preference throughout this process. Fozzie is their guy, Razor is someone they might give the big gig to further down the line but not yet.

    taniwharugbyT ChrisC 2 Replies Last reply
    0
  • taniwharugbyT Offline
    taniwharugbyT Offline
    taniwharugby
    replied to sparky on last edited by
    #742

    @sparky said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

    Yep, this has been NZR's preference throughout this process.

    disagree...maybe if Tew had still been at the helm, but I reckon Robinson will be keen to start afresh, more so after the RWC.

    1 Reply Last reply
    0
  • ChrisC Offline
    ChrisC Offline
    Chris
    replied to sparky on last edited by
    #743

    @sparky said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

    @Wurzel said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

    So the good oil is that Fozzie has the job with Razor as assistant. It's been made clear to Razor that turning down the gig as Ian's assistant would damage future aspirations.

    NZR know they can't sell Fozzie to the public without a popular figure like Robertson in his camp.

    Yep, this has been NZR's preference throughout this process. Fozzie is their guy, Razor is someone they might give the big gig to further down the line but not yet.

    Problem with that is if Foster is not the man and shits the bed,Razor may sink with him bang goes his shot at Head Coach.

    M 1 Reply Last reply
    2
  • boobooB Do not disturb
    boobooB Do not disturb
    booboo
    wrote on last edited by
    #744

    Two options:

    • Hart-Wyllie
    • Henry-Hansen-Smith
    1 Reply Last reply
    2
  • Chris B.C Offline
    Chris B.C Offline
    Chris B.
    replied to Wurzel on last edited by
    #745

    @Wurzel said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

    So the good oil is that Fozzie has the job with Razor as assistant. It's been made clear to Razor that turning down the gig as Ian's assistant would damage future aspirations.

    NZR know they can't sell Fozzie to the public without a popular figure like Robertson in his camp.

    How good is that oil, Wurzel?

    Expensive synthetic stuff you'd put in a Porsche or the sort of stuff that goes through your chainsaw bar? 🙂

    1 Reply Last reply
    1
  • BovidaeB Offline
    BovidaeB Offline
    Bovidae
    wrote on last edited by
    #746

    We need to know the bigger picture and whether either has compelling supporting coaches in their corner. I reckon the defection of Brown could have been a fatal blow to both, but more so for Robertson.

    1 Reply Last reply
    0
  • FrankF Offline
    FrankF Offline
    Frank
    wrote on last edited by
    #747

    Foster............if true........FUCK!!!!!!!!

    A guy who has never won anything as head coach,
    chosen over Robertson, Rennie and Joseph who have all won plenty as head coach.

    I think Steve Hansen may have had a big hand in this.

    taniwharugbyT 1 Reply Last reply
    1
  • M Offline
    M Offline
    Machpants
    replied to Chris on last edited by
    #748

    @Chris You've gotta hope he has the gumption to say 'OK if that's the way you roll, if it comes to a shit point in 2 years Fozzie stands down and I get a crack' And I want that in my contract.

    1 Reply Last reply
    4
  • taniwharugbyT Offline
    taniwharugbyT Offline
    taniwharugby
    replied to Frank on last edited by
    #749

    @Frank how?

    Hansen has endorsed him, outside of that I'm not sure how he has influenced the panel that was recently appointed.

    1 Reply Last reply
    0
  • C Offline
    C Offline
    chchfanatic
    replied to Wurzel on last edited by
    #750

    @Wurzel I can 100% confirm your good oil is absolute garbage. No way in the world will razor go with Foster.

    1 Reply Last reply
    1
  • J Offline
    J Offline
    junior
    replied to kiwiinmelb on last edited by
    #751

    @kiwiinmelb said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

    @mariner4life said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

    @rotated said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

    While the RWC is a noble goal, given all but one RWCs in the professional era have had a finalist coached by someone who took over mid-cycle it is difficult to see a correlation between forward planning and success.

    I'm starting to think the 4-year cycle is a complete myth. I reckon it's no more than 18 months, and even then the most important part is the last 3.

    Ireland are proof of that ,

    had a brilliant 4 year cycle then fall in a hole at the end

    The 4-year cycle only seems to work out well (and by that I mean result in a WC final appearance or victory), if it follows this pattern:

    Year 1: strong results, based on consistent game plans and selections, beating major rivals and winning a significant trophy (i.e. 6N / RC).
    Years 2-3: fall in performance as alternative game plans / tactics / selections are trialled.
    Year 4 (i.e. 12-month lead-in to RWC): upswing in results consistent with Year 1, building winning momentum (but maybe not winning significant trophy); game plan and selections from Year 1 form basis of upswing and plans for RWC, together with most successful aspects of those trialled in years 2 and 3.

    I think you can probably say that the 2007, 2011 and 2015 winners fit into this pattern, together with the 2019 beaten finalists (the 2019 winners being a real anomaly). Otherwise, I agree, perhaps its better to be a dark horse 2 years out from a RWC (certainly, the 2007, 2011 and 2015 finalists, and 2019 winners, were not on anyone's radars as being serious contenders 2 years out).

    Chris B.C 1 Reply Last reply
    0
  • Chris B.C Offline
    Chris B.C Offline
    Chris B.
    replied to junior on last edited by
    #752

    @junior To be honest - I doubt that there's any pattern that really helps.

    For the teams in contention, I think it comes down to needing to win three consecutive play-off games. And even if you're at 80 percent against Tier 1 nations - that's 0.8 x 0.8 x 0.8 = about 50% chance of success.

    If you can get a soft quarterfinal then grab it with both hands, because then you're 0.8 x 0.8 = 0.64 chance of success.

    So, I just wanna say "fuck you" to the clowns who said "Bring on Ireland"! 🙂

    J 1 Reply Last reply
    6
  • J Offline
    J Offline
    junior
    replied to Chris B. on last edited by
    #753

    @Chris-B said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

    @junior To be honest - I doubt that there's any pattern that really helps.

    For the teams in contention, I think it comes down to needing to win three consecutive play-off games. And even if you're at 80 percent against Tier 1 nations - that's 0.8 x 0.8 x 0.8 = about 50% chance of success.

    **If you can get a soft quarterfinal then grab it with both hands, because then you're 0.8 x 0.8 = 0.64 chance of success.

    So, I just wanna say "fuck you" to the clowns who said "Bring on Ireland"! :)**

    Could not agree more with this. I don't want to sound churlish, but even the most green-eyed Boks supporter must acknowledge that Japan upsetting Ireland was a massive result for their own success in the World Cup (much like Ireland upsetting Australia in 2011 had great importance in their failure at the 2011 World Cup).

    This mean that we had to play a "final" at the QF stage, which left us with little left for the SF against England. England were always on course to play a "final" against us at the SF stage. Having avoided Ireland at the QF stage, SA were able to play their "final" in the actual final.

    BovidaeB Victor MeldrewV 2 Replies Last reply
    1
  • BovidaeB Offline
    BovidaeB Offline
    Bovidae
    replied to junior on last edited by
    #754

    @junior That's why some of us wanted Scotland to beat Japan but for Japan to pick up a BP and qualify second.

    J 1 Reply Last reply
    2
  • J Offline
    J Offline
    junior
    replied to Bovidae on last edited by
    #755

    @Bovidae said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

    @junior That's why some the sensible ones of us wanted Scotland to beat Japan but for Japan to pick up a BP and qualify second.

    Fixed

    1 Reply Last reply
    4
  • pukunuiP Offline
    pukunuiP Offline
    pukunui
    wrote on last edited by
    #756

    Yes, “Bring on Ireland” came back to earth with a thud when it was revealed all the powder was used up on Ireland.

    1 Reply Last reply
    1

All Black Coach - Ian Foster
Sports Talk
allblacks
  • Login

  • Don't have an account? Register

  • Login or register to search.
  • First post
    Last post
0
  • Categories
  • Login

  • Don't have an account? Register

  • Login or register to search.