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    Ennor ? Aso ?

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    @Tim said in Possible All Blacks 2020:

    @Bones Midfielders this year: Goodhue, ALB, Laumape, Faiane?

    Pretty sure now that Walden has cemented his bench spot at the Highlanders he'll be selected for higher honours.

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    @cgrant said in Possible All Blacks 2020:

    Maybe but right now, there aren't many LHP of international quality in NZ behind Moody. Moli hasn't shown he is up to it. So who else ? Hodgman looked promising against the Chiefs before his injury. He is big and strong, while his scrummaging seemed to have improved. Ross has a big workrate but his scrummaging is suspect. Johnstone is a good scrummager but his mobility is far from being top notch. Armstrong is playing better these days than he has ever done but I don't know how he is rated by Foster. Numia is promising but still too green. So, IMO, big Karl will probably be selected for the AB squad.

    Big Karl played 68 minutes in the heat, and is looking fitter! At least one of those dropped balls was because Nock rocketted at him from close quarters. He's in my squad.

    Meanwhile who's class scrummager on the TH side, other than Nepo.

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    @pakman Tyrel Lomax

    Agree about Big Karl. Not nearly as good as Joe Moody, but if fit 2nd best option at LH.

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    @cgrant said in Possible All Blacks 2020:

    Ennor ? Aso ?

    Ennor as a Wing. Got the running game and aerial skills. But his passing not as strong as other AB midfield options.

    Aso, very good player indeed going forward against weaker opposition. He'll need to work on his defence before he's ready to face a top quality Test team

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    @Victor-Meldrew While I agree Cane should have been selected he would not have made the difference. We were man handled in the forwards and this has been an ongoing weakness exposed by Oz in Perth. Mariner has it right that we have too many fit buggers and not enough mongrel and size.

    Now Fosters teams have never been known for their forward packs so maybe we are screwed. So I got the obligatory stab at our new AB coach out of the way. He is just too happy with life. Someone should hit him the shins with a 9 iron.

    I think we are set at prop. So many options and Karl is playing himself back in the mix. Cane has been a good servant of NZ rugby but is it time to move on. Ginger and Papalii have been good and Sotutu the flavor on the month for good reason. PT has lifted his work rate and is looking good. Through in a token Cantab and we should be good despite Foster.

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    @Bones I think the AB coaches realized this and started to remedy this problem.

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    @Tim Fiane is not close. He is a lightweight at 92 kegs for a second five.

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    @broughie said in Possible All Blacks 2020:

    @Victor-Meldrew While I agree Cane should have been selected he would not have made the difference. We were man handled in the forwards and this has been an ongoing weakness exposed by Oz in Perth. Mariner has it right that we have too many fit buggers and not enough mongrel and size.

    Now Fosters teams have never been known for their forward packs so maybe we are screwed. So I got the obligatory stab at our new AB coach out of the way. He is just too happy with life. Someone should hit him the shins with a 9 iron.

    I think we are set at prop. So many options and Karl is playing himself back in the mix. Cane has been a good servant of NZ rugby but is it time to move on. Ginger and Papalii have been good and Sotutu the flavor on the month for good reason. PT has lifted his work rate and is looking good. Through in a token Cantab and we should be good despite Foster.

    🙂 Blues win a couple of games and the fans start to get cocky.

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    @booboo yeah I am surprised the 'time to move on from Cane' comment hasn't caused a Fern meltdown 😀

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    @broughie Not many options at 12 this season. Any young players coming through?

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    @Crazy-Horse said in Possible All Blacks 2020:

    @booboo yeah I am surprised the 'time to move on from Cane' comment hasn't caused a Fern meltdown 😀

    Still the best NZ back row player. 😉

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    Does anyone know how big the squad is for the July Wales/Scotland games?

    It will be interesting to see what they do with the third 7 (behind Cane and Ardie). Given Cane and Ardie can play multiple positions i'd be fairly confident they'll look at another 7 option in the squad.

    Boshier has been in outstanding form, Christie has started his Super career terrifically and Papalii wants to play 7 and after his showing vs Stormers may get a prolonged shot there for the Blues.

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    @Tim said in Possible All Blacks 2020:

    @broughie Not many options at 12 this season. Any young players coming through?

    Apart from Laumape the other midfielders can play 12 or 13 so I'm not sure they will be looking for a specialist 2nd 5.

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    But but don't we need a 2nd 5 that's also a 1st 5? Apparently it's all the rage.

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    12 only: Laumape
    12-13: ALB, Goodhue
    13-wing: Ennor
    12-13-15(-10): Havili, J Barrett

    I assume, in case of injuries, they can all cover wing.

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    @Stargazer said in Possible All Blacks 2020:

    12 only: Laumape
    12-13: ALB, Goodhue
    13-wing: Ennor
    12-13-15(-10): Havili, J Barrett

    I assume, in case of injuries, they can all cover wing.

    Yeah 9s are often wing emergency cover, so yeah

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    @Stargazer add in Aso who can play 11, 12, 13, 14. Needs to work on his defence though.

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    @Stargazer said in Possible All Blacks 2020:

    12 only: Laumape
    12-13: ALB, Goodhue
    13-wing: Ennor
    12-13-15(-10): Havili, J Barrett

    I assume, in case of injuries, they can all cover wing.

    13-wing : Ioane ? Not yet the best option but he has already played a good number of minutes as a centre for the ABs.

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    Forget the backs, we need more big mobile locks with a lot of mongrel who can play for at least 60 minutes. Too many locks around 110kg-115kg.

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