Coronavirus - New Zealand
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https://www.employment.govt.nz/about/news-and-updates/workplace-response-coronavirus-covid-19/
That's the official MBIE site for employment relations, so should be reasonably accurate.
A closedown might be an option for some businesses, or giving 14 days' notice of taking annual leave. The latter option requires that the employee has a leave entitlement (entitlements arise after an anniversary, so this will only be applicable for people with more than a year at their current employer who haven't already used all their leave).
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@Hooroo said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Machpants said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@canefan guess tomorrow wil be an indicator on how people are behaving...although expect a spike in community spread infections form today with all these people getting thier last fix of a $5 pair of undies from K-Mart or an Easter egg form the warehouse today
Yeah I expect heaps of people to drive to the coast to the beach or go fishing, which they shouldn't be doing
Absolutely they shouldn't.
The thing I can't answer is if I lived on the coast very remotely, would I go fishing (Surfcasting)? The answer is probably yes. If I was at Whangamata, the answer would be a resounding no.
I guess if you are in a place where no one will see you then it probably doesn't really matter even though they shouldn't
I'm in this situation. Beach is 50m away and rocks about 200m. Unlikely to see anyone if I go fishing but its a big IF whether I will go or not. Daily beach run will happen though, or at least a quick ride around the street for fresh air. Golf course is across the road - might get some frisbee in but thats about it
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@Virgil said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
Just left the gas station, next lane over was a couple of guys with a trailer. On that trailer?... 2 Jet skis loaded with fishing gear, rods and nets
We are lost. Next you will tell me they didn't look like partners or siblings that live together
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@canefan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Virgil said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
Just left the gas station, next lane over was a couple of guys with a trailer. On that trailer?... 2 Jet skis loaded with fishing gear, rods and nets
We are lost. Next you will tell me they didn't look like partners or siblings that live together
Looked like father and son (teenager)
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@Virgil said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@canefan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Virgil said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
Just left the gas station, next lane over was a couple of guys with a trailer. On that trailer?... 2 Jet skis loaded with fishing gear, rods and nets
We are lost. Next you will tell me they didn't look like partners or siblings that live together
Looked like father and son (teenager)
Still shouldn't be out there
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@canefan yeah I think some people are thinking being isolated at the beach or somewhere is ok, as opposed to basically suck it up and stay home for a month!
JUst heard them saying on the news the POlice's first point to make with people like that is to educate first as opposed to charging them, which I believe they can now under the current state of emergency.
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Yeah it's simples. Walk from your own door, ok, otherwise tough titties. I can walk to the beach from my door, so I find it easy to say that, I know
• What about hunting and fishing?
No. When asked about fishing and hunting, Ardern said to stay home.
"Act like you have Covid-19. It will help guide your decisions."
• Can I use my car?
"You only go out in your vehicle if you need to go and get essential food supplies, essential medical supplies or medical treatment. Otherwise, please stay at home," police commissioner Mike Bush said.
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@Machpants said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
"Act like you have Covid-19. It will help guide your decisions."
that is the kicker isnt it, not sure that message is getting through.
On another note, everyone else get thier mobile ALERT?
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My doctor mate (again) made a few interesting points
- The covid 19 tests are not very sensitive. So even if you test negative there is no guarantee you don't have it and it's early.
There are lines of people wanting to be tested, if you know people like this, tell them not to go. If they have it it's too late, and maybe they will stand a higher chance of getting it standing in line waiting
2 If you get covid 19 the best thing you can do is not go anywhere until you feel 100% (assuming you don't need hospital care of course). Anything less and you will potentially be spreading the disease and defeating the purpose of the lockdown
3 Unless you absolutely have to, do not go to medical centres or hospitals!!! They are already crazy busy enough as it is, and you stand a greater chance of exposure.
Basically take yourself and your family out of circulation as much as possible, hopefully it helps slow down the virus, but it is running now and they are struggling to keep up
He was telling me that their supplies of masks etc are tenuous, and yet he was down at Bunnings getting some stuff and found out their heavy masks were leaving as soon as they were put on the shelf. Why is the government not forcefully requisitioning all medical protective equipment, and anything that can be repurposed to be used???
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@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Machpants said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
"Act like you have Covid-19. It will help guide your decisions."
that is the kicker isnt it, not sure that message is getting through.
On another note, everyone else get thier mobile ALERT?
Yup
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I'm interested in the people who say they won't fish or similar during this, and also in the driving restrictions. I had thought I'd be able to drive the 1km to the start of a running track to exercise alone (3m gap to anyone, always).
But it seems that's not allowed? Why the car restriction? I'm not buying the "I'll need more petrol" line, is it purely to try and change mindsets?
Also, the text line that said "where you are now is where you'll have to stay" isnt particularly helpful to those of us in short term rentals!!!
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We got the ministry of transport full fact sheet at work today, cars only for essential medical or food trips, or essential workers to our from work. That's it.
Also, the text line that said "where you are now is where you'll have to stay" isnt particularly helpful to those of us in short term rentals!!!
That's you for for weeks, short term or no, you can't get kicked out, and no one is allowed to take your place if you mysteriously vanished.
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@Machpants said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
We got the ministry of transport full fact sheet at work today, cars only for essential medical or food trips, or essential workers to our from work. That's it.
Also, the text line that said "where you are now is where you'll have to stay" isnt particularly helpful to those of us in short term rentals!!!
That's you for for weeks, short term or no, you can't get kicked out, and no one is allowed to take your place if you mysteriously vanished.
Do I have to keep paying the going rate? I'm at a mates holiday rental, but I'm still paying the bastard a decent rate! What a score for him having me turn up when I did, all his other bookings have cancelled!!! 🤣
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@Bovidae said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@voodoo They want to avoid the unnecessary risk of having to rely on search and rescue (often volunteers)/emergency services to attend to people in remote areas which removes them from their own isolation.
Ok, that's an angle I hadn't considered, thanks.
Still a bummer, as it means I have to walk up this fcking hill after my run (I'm physically incapable of running up something this steep). Can't believe they didn't think of me!
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@voodoo said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Machpants said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
We got the ministry of transport full fact sheet at work today, cars only for essential medical or food trips, or essential workers to our from work. That's it.
Also, the text line that said "where you are now is where you'll have to stay" isnt particularly helpful to those of us in short term rentals!!!
That's you for for weeks, short term or no, you can't get kicked out, and no one is allowed to take your place if you mysteriously vanished.
Do I have to keep paying the going rate? I'm at a mates holiday rental, but I'm still paying the bastard a decent rate! What a score for him having me turn up when I did, all his other bookings have cancelled!!! 🤣
stop paying, what's he going to do? kick you out?