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@Hooroo said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
I'm not sure what part of the country you are in but all of what you described is available.
Flour and yeast is not available around this area, and hasn't been for a couple of weeks. Partner was talking to the supermarket yesterday - their advice was that shelves were stocked overnight, and that flour was disappearing with the first 50 people or so. We (and our neighbours) have been in 4-5 different supermarkets since last weekend, with no flour or yeast available.
So yeah, after nearly two weeks of shortage, and then a queue that long in the dark, it didn't feel great. I'm delighted you have access to basics, and we're not going to starve - but ongoing shortages and queues like that did trigger an emotional response from me. Make of that what you will ... we do live in paradise, but that doesn't mean there aren't issues in the supply chain.
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@nzzp said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Hooroo said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
I'm not sure what part of the country you are in but all of what you described is available.
Flour and yeast is not available around this area, and hasn't been for a couple of weeks. Partner was talking to the supermarket yesterday - their advice was that shelves were stocked overnight, and that flour was disappearing with the first 50 people or so. We (and our neighbours) have been in 4-5 different supermarkets since last weekend, with no flour or yeast available.
So yeah, after nearly two weeks of shortage, and then a queue that long in the dark, it didn't feel great. I'm delighted you have access to basics, and we're not going to starve - but ongoing shortages and queues like that did trigger an emotional response from me. Make of that what you will ... we do live in paradise, but that doesn't mean there aren't issues in the supply chain.
Oh, yeah, I get there are supply chain issues. I don't just make the Olympic size leap to feeling like communist eastern Europe.
It's a small inconvenience while we are trying to tackle a massive inconvenience if our health services get overwhelmed.
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I drove past one of the Backpackers in Matamata where a camper van was obviously being made to stay. Two guys on a trip in a small Mitsi L200 type thing. One was in a chair out of the van one was just sitting in the van. That would be hard work in such a tight space for at least 4 weeks.
Thankfully they both had a tablet it seemed.
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@Hooroo said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@nzzp said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Hooroo said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
I'm not sure what part of the country you are in but all of what you described is available.
Flour and yeast is not available around this area, and hasn't been for a couple of weeks. Partner was talking to the supermarket yesterday - their advice was that shelves were stocked overnight, and that flour was disappearing with the first 50 people or so. We (and our neighbours) have been in 4-5 different supermarkets since last weekend, with no flour or yeast available.
So yeah, after nearly two weeks of shortage, and then a queue that long in the dark, it didn't feel great. I'm delighted you have access to basics, and we're not going to starve - but ongoing shortages and queues like that did trigger an emotional response from me. Make of that what you will ... we do live in paradise, but that doesn't mean there aren't issues in the supply chain.
Oh, yeah, I get there are supply chain issues. I don't just make the Olympic size leap to feeling like communist eastern Europe.
It's a small inconvenience while we are trying to tackle a massive inconvenience if our health services get overwhelmed.
Because queuing for food and not having basics in the store is a pretty staple part of the old Eastern Bloc, it was a joke not a complaint, I guess. What we are doing, and it is no biggie we know, is amusingly like 80s Warsaw Pact before the fall of the wall.
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@Machpants said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Hooroo said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@nzzp said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Hooroo said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
I'm not sure what part of the country you are in but all of what you described is available.
Flour and yeast is not available around this area, and hasn't been for a couple of weeks. Partner was talking to the supermarket yesterday - their advice was that shelves were stocked overnight, and that flour was disappearing with the first 50 people or so. We (and our neighbours) have been in 4-5 different supermarkets since last weekend, with no flour or yeast available.
So yeah, after nearly two weeks of shortage, and then a queue that long in the dark, it didn't feel great. I'm delighted you have access to basics, and we're not going to starve - but ongoing shortages and queues like that did trigger an emotional response from me. Make of that what you will ... we do live in paradise, but that doesn't mean there aren't issues in the supply chain.
Oh, yeah, I get there are supply chain issues. I don't just make the Olympic size leap to feeling like communist eastern Europe.
It's a small inconvenience while we are trying to tackle a massive inconvenience if our health services get overwhelmed.
Because queuing for food and not having basics in the store is a pretty staple part of the old Eastern Bloc, it was a joke not a complaint, I guess. What we are doing, and it is no biggie we know, is amusingly like 80s Warsaw Pact before the fall of the wall.
But the basics are there. Just because everyone has decided to become a baker overnight doesn't mean the basics aren't there.
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@Kirwan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Hooroo some basics are still hard to get, or at least harder to get. So it's a fair comparsion IMO.
Whether that shortage is caused by the inefficiences of socialism or panic buying fucktards, it's still a huge difference to last month.
Feels like Communist Eastern Europe to you too then?
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@dogmeat said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
the queue might be 250 metres but that's 125 ppl. So the moment they open the queue is going to almost disappear. That wasn't true of Eastern Europe. Been there, done that, couldn't find a T-Shirt
Clearly it's not a perfect analogy, but it's a fair comment to say it feels like that.
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@Kirwan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@dogmeat said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
the queue might be 250 metres but that's 125 ppl. So the moment they open the queue is going to almost disappear. That wasn't true of Eastern Europe. Been there, done that, couldn't find a T-Shirt
Clearly it's not a perfect analogy, but it's a fair comment to say it feels like that.
I have an Eastern Euro friend that would laugh laugh and laugh at these "hardships" I guess reality of what truly Commy Eastern Europe was like and what we think it was like are two different things altogether.
I don't imagine it was such a cruisy time for them back then.
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@dogmeat said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
the queue might be 250 metres but that's 125 ppl. So the moment they open the queue is going to almost disappear. That wasn't true of Eastern Europe. Been there, done that, couldn't find a T-Shirt
It doesn’t disappear immediately if they only let in 10 shoppers at a time, which is what they were doing when I went to New World on Sunday morning. 1 hour 15 to get into the shop, 20 mins to do the shopping.
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On the supermarkets, my sense is that some regions and communities have had it luckier than others. Talking to/hearing about families in some parts of Auckland, their local supermarkets have been short/out of some of the basics for two weeks whenever they've been.
While we've been very lucky where we are and it's almost normal shopping. One day felt a bit like the week before Christmas, but only flour and Vitamin C were completely cleaned out.
For the 90's Waikato alumni, for some weird reason I've always remembered a line in Nexus reviewing the long-vanished local 3 Guys supermarket: "like shopping in Moscow".
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Been thinking about the analogy, along with the bread lines you can add a guy in uniform on TV talking in a paternalistic manner threatening to arrest you for breaking the rules. (Seriously, that chief of police doesn't come off nearly as well as the doctor).
Cult of personality leader as well
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My (East German, grew up a Communist) wife’s favourite joke from those times.
A woman goes into town, sees the queue outside a shop and joins it. After an hour she gets to the front and asks for a portion of whatever the meat is that’s available. Come the reply “Oh no, maine frau, we are the shop with no cheese. The shop with no meat is across the road”.
And yes, she thinks this feels like East Germany, only with internet and fewer potato-shaped people.
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Some promising progress on ventilators: https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/413111/covid-19-nz-sources-more-ventilators-amid-rampant-global-demand
Also a sobering thought this morning. Especially for the meh, Covid only kills very old people with pre-existing medical conditions anyway line of thinking.
People at that late stage don't get intubated in the best of times. Full scale ventilation is for the rest of us...
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@Kirwan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
I seriously need some sport as a diversion. Arguing about this shit isn't as much fun.
If the coaches had done their job and got Rieko and Akira Ioane fit and firing we would have won the RWC. There I said it.
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@Donsteppa said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
Some promising progress on ventilators: https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/413111/covid-19-nz-sources-more-ventilators-amid-rampant-global-demand
Also a sobering thought this morning. Especially for the meh, Covid only kills very old people with pre-existing medical conditions anyway line of thinking.
People at that late stage don't get intubated in the best of times. Full scale ventilation is for the rest of us...
They should send a plane to get them before anyone snaffles them up
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