Coronavirus - Overall
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@Catogrande said in Coronavirus - Overall:
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@voodoo said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Nepia said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@SynicBast I have hypertension and basically don't tick any of those ... except the BMI tells me I've overweight because I'm vertically challenged.
Everybody in my family has it (had it).
BMI is such a load of shit. I'm technically overweight at 6'2 and 95kgs, which is ludicrous. I just have massive guns.
Matthew Pinsent. Olympic multiple Gold Medal winning oarsman, in his prime was clinically obese by BMI standards.
He and I have much in common.
Both post-prime?
If I could still actually look over my shoulder these days all I would see is the large hill that I am completely over.
You and me both with that manoeuvre
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@chimoaus said in Coronavirus - Overall:
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@canefan said in Coronavirus - Overall:
For right or wrong I was taught not to spend what I didn't have
Best life-lesson Mrs & Mrs Meldrew Snr ever taught me.
Mrs & Mrs? Your house was very progressive.
Yeah. Come to think of it, my wife and mother both held the same views on money.....
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@canefan said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@mariner4life said in Coronavirus - Overall:
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@chimoaus said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@mariner4life Work 25 hours a week instead?
if you can afford it, and don't like doing or owning stuff, go for it.
We like nice stuff, and the ability to do things. It's why we work like we do.
It's all about priorities. But if you borrow across several credit cards to fund all that, I'm not on board
that's different though, that's going well beyond your means, rather than just spending what you earn
So basically I think we are on the same page? 🤔😃
Things would be a lot better if things went back to the days when a mortgage had to be paid down/off by retirement. Borrowing increasing each year is a recipe for ultimate unhappiness.
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@dogmeat said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@chimoaus I am totally fucked....
@SynicBast said in Coronavirus - Overall:
I'm completely fucked
You old buggers.
So as stated prior I have a number of those comorbidities.
But what I really want to know is are these really contributory.
My question is around the fact that anyone reaching these ages is so much more likely to have these conditions. So as the most likely comorbidity appears to be age it's not that surprising that these other comorbidties seem to correlate.
But then again they may contribute. We don't yet know.
It's the age old correlation not necessarily meaning causation.
But then again... it might.
As an aside I read, or at least saw, an article today suggesting the greatest associated risk factor is smoking.
The answer to all this really is we just don't know.
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@No-Quarter That’s exponentiality demonstrated right there. If a single virus was placed in a glass jar at 3pm and that virus doubled every second and the jar was full at 4pm, at what time was it half full? 1 second to 4pm.
Those figures are not surprising.
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@Catogrande said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@No-Quarter That’s exponentiality demonstrated right there. If a single virus was placed in a glass jar at 3pm and that virus doubled every second and the jar was full at 4pm, at what time was it half full? 1 second to 4pm.
Those figures are not surprising.
You and your "mathematics"...
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@booboo said in Coronavirus - Overall:
As an aside I read, or at least saw, an article today suggesting the greatest associated risk factor is smoking
Read the same thing. Smoking has more dire effects as you get older so perhaps a lethal combination when it comes to Coronavirus
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@Godder said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Catogrande said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@No-Quarter That’s exponentiality demonstrated right there. If a single virus was placed in a glass jar at 3pm and that virus doubled every second and the jar was full at 4pm, at what time was it half full? 1 second to 4pm.
Those figures are not surprising.
You and your "mathematics"...
It's gaining traction, soon people won't look at it as a pseudo-science. We're going mainstream brother. Come with us!
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@voodoo said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Nepia said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@SynicBast I have hypertension and basically don't tick any of those ... except the BMI tells me I've overweight because I'm vertically challenged.
Everybody in my family has it (had it).
BMI is such a load of shit. I'm technically overweight at 6'2 and 95kgs, which is ludicrous. I just have massive guns.
Fucking.
6'1" and 110 kgs.
Apparently "morbidly obese".
I'lI see you all on the other side...
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@canefan said in Coronavirus - Overall:
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@chimoaus said in Coronavirus - Overall:
Dr Campbell explains some good news coming from Imperial College.
Basically the preventions are working. It is likely actual cases are grossly under-reported. Italy is likely to have had well over a million infections, maybe in the millions. They currently show a death rate around 13% but this is likely 1% or lower given the number of actual infected.
Probably why countries like Australia, NZ have such low death numbers is the virus did not actually take hold and spread before measures were put in place. So our number of cases reported are much closer to actual cases. Whereas Europe, the US are probably 10x higher or more.
Highly likely then in the short term our health systems are unlikely to become overburdened. The issue now is how do they open up the economy whilst controlling any left over cases.
1% of 1 million is still shit loads
10,000. Compared with an average of 22000 flu or flu type illness related deaths per year on average for the last 3 years in Italy
Yeah. But since when have common flu cases overwhelmed the health system,?
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@Catogrande said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@No-Quarter That’s exponentiality demonstrated right there. If a single virus was placed in a glass jar at 3pm and that virus doubled every second and the jar was full at 4pm, at what time was it half full? 1 second to 4pm.
Those figures are not surprising.
Technically, from these details the jar may have never been half full. But that's probably too much mathematics for everyone.
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@booboo said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@canefan said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@booboo said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@chimoaus said in Coronavirus - Overall:
Dr Campbell explains some good news coming from Imperial College.
Basically the preventions are working. It is likely actual cases are grossly under-reported. Italy is likely to have had well over a million infections, maybe in the millions. They currently show a death rate around 13% but this is likely 1% or lower given the number of actual infected.
Probably why countries like Australia, NZ have such low death numbers is the virus did not actually take hold and spread before measures were put in place. So our number of cases reported are much closer to actual cases. Whereas Europe, the US are probably 10x higher or more.
Highly likely then in the short term our health systems are unlikely to become overburdened. The issue now is how do they open up the economy whilst controlling any left over cases.
1% of 1 million is still shit loads
10,000. Compared with an average of 22000 flu or flu type illness related deaths per year on average for the last 3 years in Italy
Yeah. But since when have common flu cases overwhelmed the health system,?
Oh yeah I'm not disagreeing. I was just comparing bare numbers. But that is the annual figure for the flu, covid19 has struck at a much higher rate
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@booboo said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@canefan said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@booboo said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@chimoaus said in Coronavirus - Overall:
Dr Campbell explains some good news coming from Imperial College.
Basically the preventions are working. It is likely actual cases are grossly under-reported. Italy is likely to have had well over a million infections, maybe in the millions. They currently show a death rate around 13% but this is likely 1% or lower given the number of actual infected.
Probably why countries like Australia, NZ have such low death numbers is the virus did not actually take hold and spread before measures were put in place. So our number of cases reported are much closer to actual cases. Whereas Europe, the US are probably 10x higher or more.
Highly likely then in the short term our health systems are unlikely to become overburdened. The issue now is how do they open up the economy whilst controlling any left over cases.
1% of 1 million is still shit loads
10,000. Compared with an average of 22000 flu or flu type illness related deaths per year on average for the last 3 years in Italy
Yeah. But since when have common flu cases overwhelmed the health system,?
Two days ago UK heath boffin stated that flu sometimes causes a temporary overload of capacity.
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@Catogrande said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@No-Quarter That’s exponentiality demonstrated right there. If a single virus was placed in a glass jar at 3pm and that virus doubled every second and the jar was full at 4pm, at what time was it half full? 1 second to 4pm.
Those figures are not surprising.
When was it FIRST full?
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It will be interesting to see how Sweden goes. Even though they are not in lockdown, it would seem that the Swedes' famous knack of doing what they are told will give them a chance to pull it off
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@pakman said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Catogrande said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@No-Quarter That’s exponentiality demonstrated right there. If a single virus was placed in a glass jar at 3pm and that virus doubled every second and the jar was full at 4pm, at what time was it half full? 1 second to 4pm.
Those figures are not surprising.
When was it FIRST full?
From the details provided I’d say 4pm. But the beauty of mathematics is the ability to theorise differently until absolute proof is achieved. Speaking as a non mathematician I will leave it for others to extrapolate from incomplete dat