Coronavirus - Australia
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@NTA said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@Hooroo said in Coronavirus - Australia:
Gotta say, I am quietly happy Aussie are still racing!!!
I'm absolutely confused as to why that is
As to why I am happy or why they are still racing?
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As at 3:00pm on 4 April 2020, there have been 5,548 confirmed cases of COVID-19 in Australia. There have been 198 new cases since 3:00pm yesterday.
Of the 5,548 confirmed cases in Australia, 30 have died from COVID-19. More than 287,000 tests have been conducted across Australia.
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@Hooroo said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@NTA said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@Hooroo said in Coronavirus - Australia:
Gotta say, I am quietly happy Aussie are still racing!!!
I'm absolutely confused as to why that is
As to why I am happy or why they are still racing?
I get why you're happy. 😁 I'm just confused as to how racing gets a go and basically no other sport does
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@NTA said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@Hooroo said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@NTA said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@Hooroo said in Coronavirus - Australia:
Gotta say, I am quietly happy Aussie are still racing!!!
I'm absolutely confused as to why that is
As to why I am happy or why they are still racing?
I get why you're happy. 😁 I'm just confused as to how racing gets a go and basically no other sport does
I can only assume it is because you can maintain separation between people. Except for when they are in the gates just before they start
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@Hooroo said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@NTA said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@Hooroo said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@NTA said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@Hooroo said in Coronavirus - Australia:
Gotta say, I am quietly happy Aussie are still racing!!!
I'm absolutely confused as to why that is
As to why I am happy or why they are still racing?
I get why you're happy. 😁 I'm just confused as to how racing gets a go and basically no other sport does
I can only assume it is because you can maintain separation between people. Except for when they are in the gates just before they start
And when you are standing at the tote trying to put your bet on. Or are they having zero crowds?
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And yet in Victoria you can be fined for fishing all by yourself. Ludicrous.
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@antipodean said in Coronavirus - Australia:
And yet in Victoria you can be fined for fishing all by yourself. Ludicrous.
Time to jettison a layer of government...
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@canefan said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@Hooroo said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@NTA said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@Hooroo said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@NTA said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@Hooroo said in Coronavirus - Australia:
Gotta say, I am quietly happy Aussie are still racing!!!
I'm absolutely confused as to why that is
As to why I am happy or why they are still racing?
I get why you're happy. 😁 I'm just confused as to how racing gets a go and basically no other sport does
I can only assume it is because you can maintain separation between people. Except for when they are in the gates just before they start
And when you are standing at the tote trying to put your bet on. Or are they having zero crowds?
As @barbarian said, no crowds. Only trainers and strappers. No owners or anything like that.
Jockeys made a bubble of themselves as a joint effort and all got tested. No interstate riding.
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Thought this was a pretty good article: https://www.smh.com.au/national/diabolical-dilemma-looms-even-after-coronavirus-curve-is-flattened-20200403-p54grd.html
Given the decline in cases I suspect the discussion will soon turn to 'what comes next'. I reckon they will end up lifting the restrictions for a certain cohort while maintaining bans on crowds, bars etc.
I also think there will soon be momentum to start football codes back up again. Essentially saying to Govt and others 'we're happy for you to take a lot of things away from us, but for God's sake please give us our sport back'.
As long as the risks are managed appropriately, I think getting sport back started is a risk a lot of people will be willing to take.
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I wonder if this graph doesn't paint as good a picture as the pure numbers suggest? While it overseas transmission case are dropping as expected, known local and unknown local transmission cases have risen in the last three days. We don't want to see these keep rising.
https://infogram.com/1pp9yn3e17yp9nur195gj1n7p6bz9vyyk7r
Edit: I can't figure out how to make that graph a pic.
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@Tim said in Coronavirus - Australia:
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=12322629
That's disgraceful and should be grounds for the dismissal of the police commissioner. It's perfectly clear that the doctor on board provided NSW Health with information and they fucked up in their response.
If there's an investigation, it should be handled by ICAC. From the pathetic attempt to pass the buck to Border Force, to blaming Carnival when NSW were informed of the respiratory issues unrelated to influenza were discovered on board prior to the green light given to the disembarkation of the passengers.
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@antipodean said in Coronavirus - Australia:
If there's an investigation, it should be handled by ICAC. From the pathetic attempt to pass the buck to Border Force, to blaming Carnival when NSW were informed of the respiratory issues unrelated to influenza were discovered on board prior to the green light given to the disembarkation of the passengers.
Maybe I'm really missing something, but I genuinely don't get the Ruby Princess saga. Can someone explain it to me?
I get the process was likely bungled and spitting two thousand-odd infected cruisers onto the docks wasn't a great idea.
But the facts seem to be around 400 infected and 11 dead from the ship itself, but only 11 secondary infections among non-cruisers. So it's not like it was responsible for a massive community spread.
Is there a scenario where the on-ship outbreak could have been prevented by Government? All I can think is actually take the passengers off earlier, but I haven't seen anyone suggesting that in their criticisms.
A part of me thinks this is just a lightning rod for people to latch onto - 'the Government fcked this whole thing up' - when actually it's an outlier example of what has to this date been a pretty coherent response by Government (though I acknowledge some will disagree).
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@barbarian said in Coronavirus - Australia:
Is there a scenario where the on-ship outbreak could have been prevented by Government?
Is this really the main criticism of this? I think the criticism is allowing people to just leave and get out into the general public.
And it's really not about the damage that has been caused/hasn't been caused, but the damage that could potentially be caused. We may not actually know yet if it's responsible for a community spread due to how the testing has been carried out (hopefully it hasn't and all those people let loose were past the infectious stage).
As you note the process was likely bungled - when govt/govt departments bungle stuff it gets criticism, media coverage and govt investigations. Why should this be any different?
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@Nepia said in Coronavirus - Australia:
As you note the process was likely bungled - when govt/govt departments bungle stuff it gets criticism, media coverage and govt investigations. Why should this be any different?
Oh of course. I don't object to coverage of these things.
Maybe just the hyperbole. I've seen it called 'the most incompetent decision of all time', which I think is a bit much.
Or I'm just going stir crazy.