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  • taniwharugbyT Offline
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    replied to Bones on last edited by
    #1787

    @Bones seems a more balanced article than some of the others we saw, where it seemed he was a bit bitter?

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    replied to taniwharugby on last edited by Bones
    #1788

    @taniwharugby pretty crazy to look at his debut, almost set up for failure, absolutely nails it and goes on to play very little part ever again. What's that about? You'd think after that start you'd be looking to see just how good the kid can get.

    Hopefully a change of coach won't see the same thing happen to Ioane.

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  • sparkyS Offline
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    #1789

    There ain't going to be any Rugby in Europe until September at the earliest. Not official but bleeding obvious.

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    @Bones said in NH club rugby:

    @taniwharugby pretty crazy to look at his debut, almost set up for failure, absolutely nails it and goes on to play very little part ever again. What's that about? You'd think after that start you'd be looking to see just how good the kid can get.

    Hopefully a change of coach won't see the same thing happen to Ioane.

    Mind you, he hasn't exactly set the world on fire for Wasps. Not sure why as he's obviously a class player. Heart not in it? Systems wrong? Not his type of game? Who knows but anywhichway he's been an expensive disappointment.

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    @Catogrande funny I can't think of a Wellingtonian who's come north and been a hit (kipper isn't really). Lima is a very kiwi type player in my eyes, works extremely well off guys running lines and varying it up rather than the more conservative EP play.

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  • CatograndeC Offline
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    replied to Bones on last edited by
    #1792

    @Bones said in NH club rugby:

    @Catogrande funny I can't think of a Wellingtonian who's come north and been a hit (kipper isn't really). Lima is a very kiwi type player in my eyes, works extremely well off guys running lines and varying it up rather than the more conservative EP play.

    Wouldn't surprise me at all if that level of disconnect is there, what does surprise me is that this possibility is often overlooked.

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  • M Offline
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    #1793

    French top 14 cancelled, so yeah there is lots of dreaming by NH clubs at the moment.

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    @Bones said in NH club rugby:

    @Catogrande funny I can't think of a Wellingtonian who's come north and been a hit (kipper isn't really). Lima is a very kiwi type player in my eyes, works extremely well off guys running lines and varying it up rather than the more conservative EP play.

    Welly backs?

    Thomas Waldrom was a star wasn't he.

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    #1795

    @Machpants said in NH club rugby:

    French top 14 cancelled, so yeah there is lots of dreaming by NH clubs at the moment.

    Meant to post this

    Apr 30, 2020  /  Sport

    Premiership and Champions Cup hang by thread as France ends Top 14 season

    Premiership and Champions Cup hang by thread as France ends Top 14 season

    Any chance of a tidy end to this the European club rugby season looks increasingly forlorn following the decision in France to cancel the Top 14 campaign

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  • BonesB Online
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    #1796

    @Bovidae doh. Well to be fair to me he's Hutt...

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  • ToddyT Offline
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    #1797

    Haven't Chris Masoe and Victor Vito won player of the year awards up north?

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    replied to Toddy on last edited by Bones
    #1798

    @Toddy said in NH club rugby:

    Haven't Chris Masoe and Victor Vito won player of the year awards up north?

    Shut the fuck up fluffybunnies!

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  • CatograndeC Offline
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    @Bovidae said in NH club rugby:

    @Bones said in NH club rugby:

    @Catogrande funny I can't think of a Wellingtonian who's come north and been a hit (kipper isn't really). Lima is a very kiwi type player in my eyes, works extremely well off guys running lines and varying it up rather than the more conservative EP play.

    Welly backs?

    Thomas Waldrom was a star wasn't he.

    Certainly a try scoring folk hero, first at Leicester then Exeter. Very fondly remembered down here. Not the greatest athlete though...

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    @Catogrande said in NH club rugby:

    @Bovidae said in NH club rugby:

    @Bones said in NH club rugby:

    @Catogrande funny I can't think of a Wellingtonian who's come north and been a hit (kipper isn't really). Lima is a very kiwi type player in my eyes, works extremely well off guys running lines and varying it up rather than the more conservative EP play.

    Welly backs?

    Thomas Waldrom was a star wasn't he.

    Certainly a try scoring folk hero, first at Leicester then Exeter. Very fondly remembered down here. Not the greatest athlete though...

    Yeah top try scorer in Premiership, two times! Pretty impressive for a forward.

    Or an indictment on the general type of rugby in the NH

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    @Bones said in NH club rugby:

    @Catogrande funny I can't think of a Wellingtonian who's come north and been a hit (kipper isn't really). Lima is a very kiwi type player in my eyes, works extremely well off guys running lines and varying it up rather than the more conservative EP play.

    Tana was good for Toulon (as a player) when they were in the lower leagues and contributed turning them into the behemoth they are now.

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    @Nepia said in NH club rugby:

    @Bones said in NH club rugby:

    @Catogrande funny I can't think of a Wellingtonian who's come north and been a hit (kipper isn't really). Lima is a very kiwi type player in my eyes, works extremely well off guys running lines and varying it up rather than the more conservative EP play.

    Tana was good for Toulon (as a player) when they were in the lower leagues and contributed turning them into the behemoth they are now.

    More about his professionalism and leadership than play, imo

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  • NepiaN Online
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    @Machpants said in NH club rugby:

    @Nepia said in NH club rugby:

    @Bones said in NH club rugby:

    @Catogrande funny I can't think of a Wellingtonian who's come north and been a hit (kipper isn't really). Lima is a very kiwi type player in my eyes, works extremely well off guys running lines and varying it up rather than the more conservative EP play.

    Tana was good for Toulon (as a player) when they were in the lower leagues and contributed turning them into the behemoth they are now.

    More about his professionalism and leadership than play, imo

    Fair enough, although my mate who went to most of their games said he was pretty class on the field too.

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  • TimT Away
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    #1804

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300002513/exall-black-simon-mannix-warns-french-pay-days-numbered

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  • BonesB Online
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    replied to Nepia on last edited by
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    @Nepia I was only thinking EP.

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  • RapidoR Online
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    replied to Tim on last edited by Rapido
    #1806

    @Tim said in NH club rugby:

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300002513/exall-black-simon-mannix-warns-french-pay-days-numbered

    I really hope the NZRU don't let this crisis go to waste.

    Opportunity to set up a low cost domestic professional competition with minimal overseas 'luring' - maybe for a few years, maybe longer.

    Every rugby body facing a crisis of reduced advertising, TV revenues, travel restrictions, social distancing, restrictions on events. Except 90% have been doing this on extend and pretend. Roosters coming home to roost, maybe, IMO. a quarter of English Premiership clubs won't survive this. Although, god knows what realistic state the Top 14 is in and what may happen in France behind the 'impenetrable wall' of a foreign language. Some like the Racing Capri-Sun guy are genuinely rich .....

    Only body with $100m reserves is the NZRU.

    Could take the 1996 approach when first year S12 were only paying max $60k. (Obviously inflate that for inflation)

    Set up a sustainable competition, with no rotation and AB selector interference, that fans (hopefully) care about.

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