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    Machpants
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    @hydro11 Beginning of the end was '07 and the lack of ABs, NZ viewer numbers went from 100k to 60~70, never came back. It's not a premier comp, people are less interested

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    @Machpants Yep that's another good point. And now we have depth further exposed by sabbaticals, late starts to the season from star players and mandatory rest weeks. It's little wonder viewership and interest levels are on the wane.

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    I know why NZR did it, cos ABs are everything. But it just shows that the whole season is fucked up with too much rugby, not enough quality. S12, 11 games, 11 weeks, semi and finals, sorted. Instead SR drags on and starts early without it's ABs

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    @Nepia You poached the Mighty Khan while Tew had us on the ropes.

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    @Machpants I think that was their own error. They made the abs become everything. Now the club game is completely disenfranchised

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    @Chris-B said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

    @Nepia You poached the Mighty Khan while Tew had us on the ropes.

    We repatriated him home to the North Island.

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    I would like to see an NZ Super-6 this year. 5x current franchises plus get a best of the rest/PI team going.
    Can't for the life of me see why the hell they want to have just five teams, therefore meaning one bye per round. Three games per week is a clearly better product to sell.

    If the Aussies can get their 4 teams, plus the Force, plus maybe the Fijian Drua or Sunwolves to make up their 6. Each country can play their Super-6 with a cross-over 1v2 semi into a grand final for the newly minted Triple-T (Trans Ta$man Trophy). That would be the extent of playing games with Austraya.

    As for the NPC - the Chiefs region had a sort of round robin with the teams from within their region this year (I think this year). Going forward - maybe this has to be the answer for everyone (minimises travel, reduce costs, replicates what happens at schoolboy level)
    Blues region - Northland, Harbour, Auckland (could the Akld union be split into East & West for this?)
    Chiefs - Counties, Waikato, BOP, Taranaki
    Hurricanes - Manawatu, Hawkes Bay, Wellington (can WGTN be split North/South)
    South Island - Ta$man, Canterbury, Otago, Southland
    Quarters between 1 & 2 from across the pools (randomly drawn, but in such a way you wouldn't play a team from your pool in quarters)
    Semis & Final.

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    @westcoastie said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

    I would like to see an NZ Super-6 this year. 5x current franchises plus get a best of the rest/PI team going.
    Can't for the life of me see why the hell they want to have just five teams, therefore meaning one bye per round. Three games per week is a clearly better product to sell.

    Yeah - the logical thing would be to turn the National Provincial Champions into the 6th team (with priority on their players) and then let them also choose a player from each franchise to bolster their ranks.

    Hmmm Aaron Smith, Richie Mo'unga...Hurricanes....who the fuck do we want from the Hurricanes...? πŸ™‚

    Or maybe Ta$man bolstered by all the non-contracted returnees - Sam Whitelock et al.

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    SANZAAR-statement-on-Trans_tasman-rumours.jpg

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    No surprise,money will dictate we keep SR eventually heading back to the 14 team format which was going to be introduced in 2021.

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    Bovidae
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    A suggestion that the best Top League clubs could be involved in any future SR competition.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/300012991/super-rugbys-bold-plan-to-keep-japan-involved

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    gt12
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    @Bovidae

    Bastards have been reading the fern!

    Where is my consultancy fee?

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    Bovidae
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    @gt12 I know. I'll be sending an invoice to NZR when they select my NI and SI teams. πŸ˜‰

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    @Bovidae

    It’s not the absolute worst idea for keeping Japan involved while also not making Super rugby pool play ridiculously long.

    If the two teams turn out to be crap of course, there will be problems though.

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    As long as the JRFU gets on board. Their lack of support for the Sunwolves wouldn't have impressed SANZAAR.

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    ^ ^ So, a separate Japanese league continues as normal, but they compete in a 'sort of' Pan-Pacific Champions League?

    Yes, I'd like that idea.

    But, hate the idea of the sunwolves or any other Japanese clubs/franchises in some season long hemisphere hopping league with us.

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    I like this idea but I think it works better with ever y country having a domestic only comp ala England france. I also think the nz teams will be too strong and like the idea of 8 team nz league domestic possible trans Ta$man. I think alot of depth could come from pro d2 sides ,maybe japan although money a bigger factor there, and which would help the islands and nz could claim moral high ground.

    Domestic only doesnt work with the 5 super teams unless trans Ta$man and mitre 10 depth is spread too thin both players and administrators and coaches as seen with how poor there financials look.

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    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/121523112/why-nz-rugby-could-now-rip-up-super-rugby

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    Could NZ sustain 8 fully pro teams?

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    You would have to say no - that is over 300 players.

    When expansion of Super Rugby was proposed In 2009/10 to start in 2011, both Taranaki and Hawke's Bay made moves to form a sixth Super Rugby squad and NZR said no, they couldn't afford it.

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