Coronavirus - New Zealand
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@antipodean said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Bones said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
The Nuremberg code.
Two things:
- Shop elsewhere you piston wristed gibbon.
- Film in fucking landscape mode.
Good god that guy has a punchable voice.....and I assume face as well.
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@Bovidae said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
A haircut yesterday. Well, clippers, but I wouldn't trust a family member to do it. I had to sign in and out as this is home-based business.
i got one yesterday as well, i feel like a new man
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@mariner4life said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Bovidae said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
A haircut yesterday. Well, clippers, but I wouldn't trust a family member to do it. I had to sign in and out as this is home-based business.
i got one yesterday as well, i feel like a new man
It is amazing how feral you can get over six or so weeks. I had to book at the barbers for the first time ever. Now my ears, neck and face are freezing without the Chewbacca look I was cultivating.
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i went through the "newsreader" hair stage and in to just "boofy"
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@mariner4life said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
i went through the "newsreader" hair stage and in to just "boofy"
According to my sons my beard got greyer over lockdown.
Considering it's usually ginga I guess this is an improvement of sorts.
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Saw this pop up on crackbook. Not so taken with racism/injustice circle - but we know certain groups are over-represented in data on poor health and lack of access to services. I think you could swap that out for concern about our medical systems (and embedded policy etc) to cope with a pandemic.
But I dig the message that there are multiple elements to this shit-show of a pandemic.
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@mariner4life said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Bovidae said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
A haircut yesterday. Well, clippers, but I wouldn't trust a family member to do it. I had to sign in and out as this is home-based business.
i got one yesterday as well, i feel like a new man
The mission I had was getting rid of 2 months of beard growth. I usually have some facial hair as I am too lazy to shave regularly but even my clippers gave up this time.
BTW, the old fella getting his hair cut before me had a decent mullet going. I was impressed.
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@Bovidae said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@mariner4life said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Bovidae said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
A haircut yesterday. Well, clippers, but I wouldn't trust a family member to do it. I had to sign in and out as this is home-based business.
i got one yesterday as well, i feel like a new man
The mission I had was getting rid of 2 months of beard growth. I usually have some facial hair as I am too lazy to shave regularly but even my clippers gave up this time.
BTW, the old fella getting his hair cut before me had a decent mullet going. I was impressed.
I've stayed on my regular shave rotation
continued to give the old fella a haircut too...
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@mariner4life good to hear you were taking care of the lady garden.
oh god. Your old man isn't living with you is he!
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I didnt shave or trim my beard for the duration, was last Thursday I trimmed the beard, then a haircut on Tuesday...wife and kids reckon I looked better with the longer beard though!
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@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
I didnt shave or trim my beard for the duration, was last Thursday I trimmed the beard, then a haircut on Tuesday...wife and kids reckon I looked better with the longer beard though!
Never bloody happy hey?
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@nzzp said in NZ Politics:
@Crucial said in NZ Politics:
Where is all the talk about not needing to go so hard compared to Oz now? They are now more restricted than us and although they have done well they haven't cleared the spread up enough to go back to normal life. It was always said that the hard and horrible tactic would see us coming back out quickly.
They've basically wound up in teh same place - 6 new cases yesterday, and without the massive lockdown. I think lockdown was a good call, but the critique is always how quickly we can come out of it, and the damage done in the mean time.
I disagree that they are in the same place. They are headed there but are still getting community transmissions at low numbers. That means that loosening up runs a risk of another outbreak.
It has been a fallacy all along that Oz didn't take the same 'hit' that we did as far as business goes. The restrictions may have looked better on paper but the reality was that people weren't going out and spending anyway. They still had the same hit as us in tourism for example.
Their current restrictions (State by State) are quite strict.
As you say the proof is in how quickly we can get back to a reasonably 'normal' state where (some industries aside) people are going about their usual business, going to work, buying lunches, spending in shops etc.My point really was that anywhere that we look in a 'better' position lifestyle wise by comparison with others is a plus to Labour.
NB: shifted this to the Coronavirus thread but it started as a post in the NZ Politics one. (much crossover)
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@Crucial said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@nzzp said in NZ Politics:
@Crucial said in NZ Politics:
Where is all the talk about not needing to go so hard compared to Oz now? They are now more restricted than us and although they have done well they haven't cleared the spread up enough to go back to normal life. It was always said that the hard and horrible tactic would see us coming back out quickly.
They've basically wound up in teh same place - 6 new cases yesterday, and without the massive lockdown. I think lockdown was a good call, but the critique is always how quickly we can come out of it, and the damage done in the mean time.
I disagree that they are in the same place. They are headed there but are still getting community transmissions at low numbers. That means that loosening up runs a risk of another outbreak.
I went and had a look, but couldn't see much on the source of infection. Do you know of any decent sources?
This (https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-17/coronavirus-cases-data-reveals-how-covid-19-spreads-in-australia/12060704?nw=0#sourceofinfection) seemed to suggest that from May 13-20 (the last week of data), there were no new community spread cases (unknowns static at 713). The week before still had a fair bit of unknown though, with about 25 cases with 'unknown' source through the week.
I know data depends on how you look at it, but if they aren't where we are, they seemed pretty close. Keen to see if there is data I don't know about though.
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@nzzp said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Crucial said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@nzzp said in NZ Politics:
@Crucial said in NZ Politics:
Where is all the talk about not needing to go so hard compared to Oz now? They are now more restricted than us and although they have done well they haven't cleared the spread up enough to go back to normal life. It was always said that the hard and horrible tactic would see us coming back out quickly.
They've basically wound up in teh same place - 6 new cases yesterday, and without the massive lockdown. I think lockdown was a good call, but the critique is always how quickly we can come out of it, and the damage done in the mean time.
I disagree that they are in the same place. They are headed there but are still getting community transmissions at low numbers. That means that loosening up runs a risk of another outbreak.
I went and had a look, but couldn't see much on the source of infection. Do you know of any decent sources?
This (https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-17/coronavirus-cases-data-reveals-how-covid-19-spreads-in-australia/12060704?nw=0#sourceofinfection) seemed to suggest that from May 13-20 (the last week of data), there were no new community spread cases (unknowns static at 713). The week before still had a fair bit of unknown though, with about 25 cases with 'unknown' source through the week.
I know data depends on how you look at it, but if they aren't where we are, they seemed pretty close. Keen to see if there is data I don't know about though.
This is the big unknown that every country is going through. How safe is 'pretty close' if you don't know the source. The hard NZ approach was to get to a position where we could feel comfortable that any new cases were from known origins and further spread could be shut down.
With 'pretty close' you have unknowns out there that could cause a resurgence.I'm not having a crack at Oz at all though. They have also done a pretty good job. But the longer they have to hold more restrictions than us the better we (and therefore the current Govt approach) looks to voters. They will feel that correct decisions were made and that gives confidence.