Coronavirus - New Zealand
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@dogmeat said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@voodoo I was going to say that in my original post but then figured what the hell not my call and it gives her grieving family some solace then hey-ho.
Is the solace thing an actual reason given by the MOH? I'm no attributing to you anything mate but I hope those words weren't used as justification to inflate numbers by the authority who kept people from funerals for 6 weeks.
The death toll was the reason we sacrificed so much, now they're purposely toying with it like it doesn't matter? Bizarre.
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@No-Quarter said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
WTF why would they have an "inclusive approach"?! They either had it or they didn't.
Looks like NZ is going to have at least 1504 deaths then...
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@dogmeat whenever I have been out and about the last week or so since I have re-entered society, it is like normal here, if anything, more people about...although I am stupid busy at work, so I'm taking a day off tomorrow
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I don't see the problem with including this lady's death in the numbers. Even if COVID-19 was the primary cause of her death, it was likely a contributing/secundary factor. If she hadn't had COVID, she might have lived (a bit) longer, even at her age.
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@Stargazer said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
I don't see the problem with including this lady's death in the numbers. Even if COVID-19 was the primary cause of her death, it was likely a contributing/secundary factor. If she hadn't had COVID, she might have lived (a bit) longer, even at her age.
Oh come on! She recovered and tested negative twice! You might as well chalk her death up to the chicken pox she had as a 5yr old or the head cold she got when working in the seafood markets as a 30yr old.
I have a 74yr old mother with lung cancer and months to live. If she got Covid now, it would likely be lethal, and of course would be recorded as a Covid death. But even then, I still wouldn't say she died of Covid, she is dying of bloody lung cancer!!!
Its absurd to consider this recovered case as a Covid death if we want to use the figures for any useful analysis of the virus.
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Wow, 1 new case in what 2 weeks, many regions with none in over a month and now a solitary active case...I guess if you were a pessimist you would see the changes coming in today as a chance for a second wave, especially with a long weekend and people travelling...
But youd have to think the pressure to return to 'normal' on the Govt is immense, although I think it's fair to say some people are likely to continue social distancing for some time regardless of level.
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Another day no new cases, still only the solitary active case in Auckland
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@Mokey Well those flare ups might not show for another 10-14 days, so yeah that's the timescale 'no later than 22 June'. I reckon the L2 limits will go to the original 100 indoors 500 out soon though, the 8th is the day mentioned for re-assess L2 settings
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@Machpants said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
I reckon the L2 limits will go to the original 100 indoors 500 out soon though,
They might have done that already. Matakana market had a 500 max rule today (according to my sister) and 100 is already in place for inside.
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Baby steps...gently gently children
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@Snowy said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Machpants said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
I reckon the L2 limits will go to the original 100 indoors 500 out soon though,
They might have done that already. Matakana market had a 500 max rule today (according to my sister) and 100 is already in place for inside.
Not legally they didn't, but a market is not a gathering. Everyone should have been social distancing like they should do in supermarket
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@Siam said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
Are people more concerned about the lethal nature of getting the virus or about the self imposed restrictions if the virus pops up again?
Are we more scared of getting sick or of getting bored / broke?
Option B for me. The virus has not hit us with the intensity that it has in the NH. The economic pain will be harder to bear
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I think many are shit scared of being put back into L4, even though I cannot see us doing so again even with a 2nd wave, equal to or worse than our 'worst' days with almost 100 a day.
Our economy would not survive (I realise it it in hospital at present...)
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@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
I think many are shit scared of being put back into L4, even though I cannot see us doing so again even with a 2nd wave, equal to or worse than our 'worst' days with almost 100 a day.
Our economy would not survive (I realise it it in hospital at present...)
We will sail into level 1. The major test will be when we open up our borders
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@canefan yeah the borders is key...I see calls for opening up some PI given some have come through well too, but that isnt what will help our economy, opening it to AUs will be what NZ needs for that...but until Aus is clear, it is too risky IMO now we have come this far.
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@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@canefan yeah the borders is key...I see calls for opening up some PI given some have come through well too, but that isnt what will help our economy, opening it to AUs will be what NZ needs for that...but until Aus is clear, it is too risky IMO now we have come this far.
As usual, we can't trust those aussie critters 😉