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@pakman said in Coronavirus - Overall:
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It's funny how people are now turning on Sweden a bit, at least in this part of the world. But the reality is that all of Western Europe has been smashed fairly equally. Britain, Belgium, Holland, Italy, Spain, France, Switzerland. It's all pretty ugly.
Given it's been a global pandemic, Sweden hasn't been bad. And no worse than the travel hub European countries who did lockdown.
AND chances of a second wave MUCH lower in Sweden.
Sweden looks reasonably ugly at the moment, but we won't know for 6-12 months how this plays out.
Not sure what you're referring to, but as of last week Sweden had NO excess mortality.
In other words, people were dying no faster than the five year average. So hard to see the problem, at least going forward?
Really? That's quite something if so.
WTF happened here then?
Not sure anyone really knows for sure. But there is an idea that CV doesn't cause more deaths per se, it merely brings deaths forward by some months.
So a rationalisation might be that those who would have otherwise died in June died earlier in the year, and any CV deaths in June are less than the impact.
That doesn't quite track. There will need to be less deaths in the coming months than normal for the Covid deaths in Mar-May not to be excess. There's been one week of June data showing just a little bit under the average, it's still too early to tell the deaths were 'early' or not.
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@Nepia said in Coronavirus - Overall:
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@voodoo said in Coronavirus - Overall:
It's funny how people are now turning on Sweden a bit, at least in this part of the world. But the reality is that all of Western Europe has been smashed fairly equally. Britain, Belgium, Holland, Italy, Spain, France, Switzerland. It's all pretty ugly.
Given it's been a global pandemic, Sweden hasn't been bad. And no worse than the travel hub European countries who did lockdown.
AND chances of a second wave MUCH lower in Sweden.
Sweden looks reasonably ugly at the moment, but we won't know for 6-12 months how this plays out.
Not sure what you're referring to, but as of last week Sweden had NO excess mortality.
In other words, people were dying no faster than the five year average. So hard to see the problem, at least going forward?
Really? That's quite something if so.
WTF happened here then?
Not sure anyone really knows for sure. But there is an idea that CV doesn't cause more deaths per se, it merely brings deaths forward by some months.
So a rationalisation might be that those who would have otherwise died in June died earlier in the year, and any CV deaths in June are less than the impact.
That doesn't quite track. There will need to be less deaths in the coming months than normal for the Covid deaths in Mar-May not to be excess. There's been one week of June data showing just a little bit under the average, it's still too early to tell the deaths were 'early' or not.
Not sure that logic holds. The people most effected were in their 80s/90s, some in end of life care so quite likely would have died some time during this year regardless of the pandemic.
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@Kirwan said in Coronavirus - Overall:
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It's funny how people are now turning on Sweden a bit, at least in this part of the world. But the reality is that all of Western Europe has been smashed fairly equally. Britain, Belgium, Holland, Italy, Spain, France, Switzerland. It's all pretty ugly.
Given it's been a global pandemic, Sweden hasn't been bad. And no worse than the travel hub European countries who did lockdown.
AND chances of a second wave MUCH lower in Sweden.
Sweden looks reasonably ugly at the moment, but we won't know for 6-12 months how this plays out.
Not sure what you're referring to, but as of last week Sweden had NO excess mortality.
In other words, people were dying no faster than the five year average. So hard to see the problem, at least going forward?
Really? That's quite something if so.
WTF happened here then?
Not sure anyone really knows for sure. But there is an idea that CV doesn't cause more deaths per se, it merely brings deaths forward by some months.
So a rationalisation might be that those who would have otherwise died in June died earlier in the year, and any CV deaths in June are less than the impact.
That doesn't quite track. There will need to be less deaths in the coming months than normal for the Covid deaths in Mar-May not to be excess. There's been one week of June data showing just a little bit under the average, it's still too early to tell the deaths were 'early' or not.
Not sure that logic holds. The people most effected were in their 80s/90s, some in end of life care so quite likely would have died some time during this year regardless of the pandemic.
That may be the case, but we don't know that until the end of year totals come in - which was why I was responding to @pakman's post about the June totals.
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@Nepia said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Kirwan said in Coronavirus - Overall:
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It's funny how people are now turning on Sweden a bit, at least in this part of the world. But the reality is that all of Western Europe has been smashed fairly equally. Britain, Belgium, Holland, Italy, Spain, France, Switzerland. It's all pretty ugly.
Given it's been a global pandemic, Sweden hasn't been bad. And no worse than the travel hub European countries who did lockdown.
AND chances of a second wave MUCH lower in Sweden.
Sweden looks reasonably ugly at the moment, but we won't know for 6-12 months how this plays out.
Not sure what you're referring to, but as of last week Sweden had NO excess mortality.
In other words, people were dying no faster than the five year average. So hard to see the problem, at least going forward?
Really? That's quite something if so.
WTF happened here then?
Not sure anyone really knows for sure. But there is an idea that CV doesn't cause more deaths per se, it merely brings deaths forward by some months.
So a rationalisation might be that those who would have otherwise died in June died earlier in the year, and any CV deaths in June are less than the impact.
That doesn't quite track. There will need to be less deaths in the coming months than normal for the Covid deaths in Mar-May not to be excess. There's been one week of June data showing just a little bit under the average, it's still too early to tell the deaths were 'early' or not.
Not sure that logic holds. The people most effected were in their 80s/90s, some in end of life care so quite likely would have died some time during this year regardless of the pandemic.
That may be the case, but we don't know that until the end of year totals come in - which was why I was responding to @pakman's post about the June totals.
It's not certain, obviously, but a pretty educated guess for people that are 90!
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@Kirwan said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Nepia said in Coronavirus - Overall:
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@Nepia said in Coronavirus - Overall:
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@nzzp said in Coronavirus - Overall:
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@voodoo said in Coronavirus - Overall:
It's funny how people are now turning on Sweden a bit, at least in this part of the world. But the reality is that all of Western Europe has been smashed fairly equally. Britain, Belgium, Holland, Italy, Spain, France, Switzerland. It's all pretty ugly.
Given it's been a global pandemic, Sweden hasn't been bad. And no worse than the travel hub European countries who did lockdown.
AND chances of a second wave MUCH lower in Sweden.
Sweden looks reasonably ugly at the moment, but we won't know for 6-12 months how this plays out.
Not sure what you're referring to, but as of last week Sweden had NO excess mortality.
In other words, people were dying no faster than the five year average. So hard to see the problem, at least going forward?
Really? That's quite something if so.
WTF happened here then?
Not sure anyone really knows for sure. But there is an idea that CV doesn't cause more deaths per se, it merely brings deaths forward by some months.
So a rationalisation might be that those who would have otherwise died in June died earlier in the year, and any CV deaths in June are less than the impact.
That doesn't quite track. There will need to be less deaths in the coming months than normal for the Covid deaths in Mar-May not to be excess. There's been one week of June data showing just a little bit under the average, it's still too early to tell the deaths were 'early' or not.
Not sure that logic holds. The people most effected were in their 80s/90s, some in end of life care so quite likely would have died some time during this year regardless of the pandemic.
That may be the case, but we don't know that until the end of year totals come in - which was why I was responding to @pakman's post about the June totals.
It's not certain, obviously, but a pretty educated guess for people that are 90!
Yeah, but not so much the 1500 deaths of people aged between 30-70.
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@Nepia said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Kirwan said in Coronavirus - Overall:
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@Kirwan said in Coronavirus - Overall:
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@voodoo said in Coronavirus - Overall:
It's funny how people are now turning on Sweden a bit, at least in this part of the world. But the reality is that all of Western Europe has been smashed fairly equally. Britain, Belgium, Holland, Italy, Spain, France, Switzerland. It's all pretty ugly.
Given it's been a global pandemic, Sweden hasn't been bad. And no worse than the travel hub European countries who did lockdown.
AND chances of a second wave MUCH lower in Sweden.
Sweden looks reasonably ugly at the moment, but we won't know for 6-12 months how this plays out.
Not sure what you're referring to, but as of last week Sweden had NO excess mortality.
In other words, people were dying no faster than the five year average. So hard to see the problem, at least going forward?
Really? That's quite something if so.
WTF happened here then?
Not sure anyone really knows for sure. But there is an idea that CV doesn't cause more deaths per se, it merely brings deaths forward by some months.
So a rationalisation might be that those who would have otherwise died in June died earlier in the year, and any CV deaths in June are less than the impact.
That doesn't quite track. There will need to be less deaths in the coming months than normal for the Covid deaths in Mar-May not to be excess. There's been one week of June data showing just a little bit under the average, it's still too early to tell the deaths were 'early' or not.
Not sure that logic holds. The people most effected were in their 80s/90s, some in end of life care so quite likely would have died some time during this year regardless of the pandemic.
That may be the case, but we don't know that until the end of year totals come in - which was why I was responding to @pakman's post about the June totals.
It's not certain, obviously, but a pretty educated guess for people that are 90!
Yeah, but not so much the 1500 deaths of people aged between 30-70.
Covid totals jump up when I wasn't paying attention?
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@Kirwan said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Nepia said in Coronavirus - Overall:
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It's funny how people are now turning on Sweden a bit, at least in this part of the world. But the reality is that all of Western Europe has been smashed fairly equally. Britain, Belgium, Holland, Italy, Spain, France, Switzerland. It's all pretty ugly.
Given it's been a global pandemic, Sweden hasn't been bad. And no worse than the travel hub European countries who did lockdown.
AND chances of a second wave MUCH lower in Sweden.
Sweden looks reasonably ugly at the moment, but we won't know for 6-12 months how this plays out.
Not sure what you're referring to, but as of last week Sweden had NO excess mortality.
In other words, people were dying no faster than the five year average. So hard to see the problem, at least going forward?
Really? That's quite something if so.
WTF happened here then?
Not sure anyone really knows for sure. But there is an idea that CV doesn't cause more deaths per se, it merely brings deaths forward by some months.
So a rationalisation might be that those who would have otherwise died in June died earlier in the year, and any CV deaths in June are less than the impact.
That doesn't quite track. There will need to be less deaths in the coming months than normal for the Covid deaths in Mar-May not to be excess. There's been one week of June data showing just a little bit under the average, it's still too early to tell the deaths were 'early' or not.
Not sure that logic holds. The people most effected were in their 80s/90s, some in end of life care so quite likely would have died some time during this year regardless of the pandemic.
That may be the case, but we don't know that until the end of year totals come in - which was why I was responding to @pakman's post about the June totals.
It's not certain, obviously, but a pretty educated guess for people that are 90!
Yeah, but not so much the 1500 deaths of people aged between 30-70.
Covid totals jump up when I wasn't paying attention?
The discussion has been about Sweden, they have nearly 5000 deaths.
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@Nepia said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Kirwan said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Nepia said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Kirwan said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Nepia said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Kirwan said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Nepia said in Coronavirus - Overall:
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It's funny how people are now turning on Sweden a bit, at least in this part of the world. But the reality is that all of Western Europe has been smashed fairly equally. Britain, Belgium, Holland, Italy, Spain, France, Switzerland. It's all pretty ugly.
Given it's been a global pandemic, Sweden hasn't been bad. And no worse than the travel hub European countries who did lockdown.
AND chances of a second wave MUCH lower in Sweden.
Sweden looks reasonably ugly at the moment, but we won't know for 6-12 months how this plays out.
Not sure what you're referring to, but as of last week Sweden had NO excess mortality.
In other words, people were dying no faster than the five year average. So hard to see the problem, at least going forward?
Really? That's quite something if so.
WTF happened here then?
Not sure anyone really knows for sure. But there is an idea that CV doesn't cause more deaths per se, it merely brings deaths forward by some months.
So a rationalisation might be that those who would have otherwise died in June died earlier in the year, and any CV deaths in June are less than the impact.
That doesn't quite track. There will need to be less deaths in the coming months than normal for the Covid deaths in Mar-May not to be excess. There's been one week of June data showing just a little bit under the average, it's still too early to tell the deaths were 'early' or not.
Not sure that logic holds. The people most effected were in their 80s/90s, some in end of life care so quite likely would have died some time during this year regardless of the pandemic.
That may be the case, but we don't know that until the end of year totals come in - which was why I was responding to @pakman's post about the June totals.
It's not certain, obviously, but a pretty educated guess for people that are 90!
Yeah, but not so much the 1500 deaths of people aged between 30-70.
Covid totals jump up when I wasn't paying attention?
The discussion has been about Sweden, they have nearly 5000 deaths.
This is the difficulty about comparing nation responses. Do we know where we are at in this pandemic? Will there be another wave?
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@Nepia said in Coronavirus - Overall:
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It's funny how people are now turning on Sweden a bit, at least in this part of the world. But the reality is that all of Western Europe has been smashed fairly equally. Britain, Belgium, Holland, Italy, Spain, France, Switzerland. It's all pretty ugly.
Given it's been a global pandemic, Sweden hasn't been bad. And no worse than the travel hub European countries who did lockdown.
AND chances of a second wave MUCH lower in Sweden.
Sweden looks reasonably ugly at the moment, but we won't know for 6-12 months how this plays out.
Not sure what you're referring to, but as of last week Sweden had NO excess mortality.
In other words, people were dying no faster than the five year average. So hard to see the problem, at least going forward?
Really? That's quite something if so.
WTF happened here then?
Not sure anyone really knows for sure. But there is an idea that CV doesn't cause more deaths per se, it merely brings deaths forward by some months.
So a rationalisation might be that those who would have otherwise died in June died earlier in the year, and any CV deaths in June are less than the impact.
That doesn't quite track. There will need to be less deaths in the coming months than normal for the Covid deaths in Mar-May not to be excess. There's been one week of June data showing just a little bit under the average, it's still too early to tell the deaths were 'early' or not.
Not sure that logic holds. The people most effected were in their 80s/90s, some in end of life care so quite likely would have died some time during this year regardless of the pandemic.
That may be the case, but we don't know that until the end of year totals come in - which was why I was responding to @pakman's post about the June totals.
It's not certain, obviously, but a pretty educated guess for people that are 90!
Yeah, but not so much the 1500 deaths of people aged between 30-70.
Covid totals jump up when I wasn't paying attention?
The discussion has been about Sweden, they have nearly 5000 deaths.
OK, my bad. All these threads blur into each other. So your assumption is that those people between 30-70 have no underlying health conditions?
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@Kirwan said in Coronavirus - Overall:
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@Nepia said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Kirwan said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Nepia said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Kirwan said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Nepia said in Coronavirus - Overall:
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It's funny how people are now turning on Sweden a bit, at least in this part of the world. But the reality is that all of Western Europe has been smashed fairly equally. Britain, Belgium, Holland, Italy, Spain, France, Switzerland. It's all pretty ugly.
Given it's been a global pandemic, Sweden hasn't been bad. And no worse than the travel hub European countries who did lockdown.
AND chances of a second wave MUCH lower in Sweden.
Sweden looks reasonably ugly at the moment, but we won't know for 6-12 months how this plays out.
Not sure what you're referring to, but as of last week Sweden had NO excess mortality.
In other words, people were dying no faster than the five year average. So hard to see the problem, at least going forward?
Really? That's quite something if so.
WTF happened here then?
Not sure anyone really knows for sure. But there is an idea that CV doesn't cause more deaths per se, it merely brings deaths forward by some months.
So a rationalisation might be that those who would have otherwise died in June died earlier in the year, and any CV deaths in June are less than the impact.
That doesn't quite track. There will need to be less deaths in the coming months than normal for the Covid deaths in Mar-May not to be excess. There's been one week of June data showing just a little bit under the average, it's still too early to tell the deaths were 'early' or not.
Not sure that logic holds. The people most effected were in their 80s/90s, some in end of life care so quite likely would have died some time during this year regardless of the pandemic.
That may be the case, but we don't know that until the end of year totals come in - which was why I was responding to @pakman's post about the June totals.
It's not certain, obviously, but a pretty educated guess for people that are 90!
Yeah, but not so much the 1500 deaths of people aged between 30-70.
Covid totals jump up when I wasn't paying attention?
The discussion has been about Sweden, they have nearly 5000 deaths.
OK, my bad. All these threads blur into each other. So your assumption is that those people between 30-70 have no underlying health conditions?
No, I haven't made any assumptions on 1500 people. Is it your assumption they all do?
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@Nepia said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Kirwan said in Coronavirus - Overall:
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@nzzp said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@pakman said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@voodoo said in Coronavirus - Overall:
It's funny how people are now turning on Sweden a bit, at least in this part of the world. But the reality is that all of Western Europe has been smashed fairly equally. Britain, Belgium, Holland, Italy, Spain, France, Switzerland. It's all pretty ugly.
Given it's been a global pandemic, Sweden hasn't been bad. And no worse than the travel hub European countries who did lockdown.
AND chances of a second wave MUCH lower in Sweden.
Sweden looks reasonably ugly at the moment, but we won't know for 6-12 months how this plays out.
Not sure what you're referring to, but as of last week Sweden had NO excess mortality.
In other words, people were dying no faster than the five year average. So hard to see the problem, at least going forward?
Really? That's quite something if so.
WTF happened here then?
Not sure anyone really knows for sure. But there is an idea that CV doesn't cause more deaths per se, it merely brings deaths forward by some months.
So a rationalisation might be that those who would have otherwise died in June died earlier in the year, and any CV deaths in June are less than the impact.
That doesn't quite track. There will need to be less deaths in the coming months than normal for the Covid deaths in Mar-May not to be excess. There's been one week of June data showing just a little bit under the average, it's still too early to tell the deaths were 'early' or not.
Not sure that logic holds. The people most effected were in their 80s/90s, some in end of life care so quite likely would have died some time during this year regardless of the pandemic.
That may be the case, but we don't know that until the end of year totals come in - which was why I was responding to @pakman's post about the June totals.
You point is entirely fair, @Nepia . I was responding to @nzzp posting that things were getting ugly in Sweden.
In fact the deaths by day has been trending smoothly downwards since early April. But in line with @Kirwan's logic I shouldn't be surprised if the excess deaths for the year are minor.
But only time will tell.
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@Nepia said in Coronavirus - Overall:
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It's funny how people are now turning on Sweden a bit, at least in this part of the world. But the reality is that all of Western Europe has been smashed fairly equally. Britain, Belgium, Holland, Italy, Spain, France, Switzerland. It's all pretty ugly.
Given it's been a global pandemic, Sweden hasn't been bad. And no worse than the travel hub European countries who did lockdown.
AND chances of a second wave MUCH lower in Sweden.
Sweden looks reasonably ugly at the moment, but we won't know for 6-12 months how this plays out.
Not sure what you're referring to, but as of last week Sweden had NO excess mortality.
In other words, people were dying no faster than the five year average. So hard to see the problem, at least going forward?
Really? That's quite something if so.
WTF happened here then?
Not sure anyone really knows for sure. But there is an idea that CV doesn't cause more deaths per se, it merely brings deaths forward by some months.
So a rationalisation might be that those who would have otherwise died in June died earlier in the year, and any CV deaths in June are less than the impact.
That doesn't quite track. There will need to be less deaths in the coming months than normal for the Covid deaths in Mar-May not to be excess. There's been one week of June data showing just a little bit under the average, it's still too early to tell the deaths were 'early' or not.
Not sure that logic holds. The people most effected were in their 80s/90s, some in end of life care so quite likely would have died some time during this year regardless of the pandemic.
That may be the case, but we don't know that until the end of year totals come in - which was why I was responding to @pakman's post about the June totals.
It's not certain, obviously, but a pretty educated guess for people that are 90!
Yeah, but not so much the 1500 deaths of people aged between 30-70.
Being lazy here. I'm assuming than most of the 1500 are over 55?
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@Snowy said in Coronavirus - Overall:
I'm really starting to believe that we should have just let it happen. Worldwide.
Says the psychopath.
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@Catogrande said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Snowy said in Coronavirus - Overall:
I'm really starting to believe that we should have just let it happen. Worldwide.
Says the psychopath.
If you believe that, yeah, sure.
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@Snowy said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Catogrande said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Snowy said in Coronavirus - Overall:
I'm really starting to believe that we should have just let it happen. Worldwide.
Says the psychopath.
If you believe that, yeah, sure.
serial killer joke here?
The question is, how do we deal with this if no vaccine gets found. Elimination will be damn near impossible, and recessions and economic poor performance kill people too. It's pretty scary
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@nzzp said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Snowy said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Catogrande said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Snowy said in Coronavirus - Overall:
I'm really starting to believe that we should have just let it happen. Worldwide.
Says the psychopath.
If you believe that, yeah, sure.
serial killer joke here?
The question is, how do we deal with this if no vaccine gets found. Elimination will be damn near impossible, and recessions and economic poor performance kill people too. It's pretty scary
What's the endgame if there's no vaccine or medication to severely alleviate symptoms? The longer this goes on we should have expanded our covid fighting capability, adequate PPE, greater numbers of respirators and ICU spots. Other plans in place to limit spread and protect the vulnerable, then we just get on with it
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@nzzp said in Coronavirus - Overall:
serial killer joke here?
Not from me. I'm grumpy that we have this fluffybunny of a thing back in the country.
Just bring it on mutherfucker - there is no other way.
If you are stupid enough to let people in, then the whole lock down was pointless.
We will have to live, or die, with it.
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@Snowy said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@nzzp said in Coronavirus - Overall:
If you are stupid enough to let people in, then the whole lock down was pointless.Letting people in to managed isolation/quarantine is fine.
Letting people out for compassionate leave is both right and appropraite - for the right cases, and with the right travel requirements is fine.
We were late to the first one, and then have swung from 'no compassionate leave even though we have allowed it' to 'whatever, go for it', back to 'no compassionate leave'.
Quarantine has one farking job. One job. FFS, I'm ropable. As for teh person who (it appears) MAY HAVE HAD SYMPTOMS, I have no words