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<p>I'd go the other way. All our guys have specailist T20 coaches working with them - Mitch works with Bond in the IPL doesn't he?</p>
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<p>The issue isn't their T20 bowling. Its their test bowling. Southee under Bond was getting really good at hitting line & length when it didn't swing. Then Bond went & Southee rocked up post IPL & tried to bowl 6 variations an over in tests. And was shit.</p>
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<p>Agree they only need to do a few stints a year with a 2nd stringer there right through, we don't play enough tests to warrent a top coach 365 days. Maybe Kyle Mills supporting Vaas or something. </p>
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<p>Yeah I see what you mean. It wasn't so much the T20 I was thinking of but conditioning and the science that I <em>think </em>the Aussies have got a handle on (even though lots of theirs get crocked gulp).</p>
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<p>You raised a good point about our bowlers (who've basically changed our fortunes) being out so much. I think having them fit has to be a big KPI for the next coach</p>
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<p>I liken it to NZ rugby coaches being top the pack. I think Aus bowling (cricket) coaches are similar.</p>
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<p>Look at how bowling coaching looks these days: Endorsed by David Saker</p>
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<p>That is shit all round really.</p>
<p>A very short tenure, no real improvement, and moving on for family reasons, which surely he should have known beforehand, being a former international cricketer himself.</p>
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<p>Bond stayed far longer, did an amazing job, and also has wife and young kids.</p>
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<p>Isn't the concept of a bowling coach traveling with the team perhaps unnecessary?</p>
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<p>Maybe we can attract a better quality candidate and get better results if the role is NZ based? Surely most of the actual foundation "work" goes in during training camps and at the domestic level rather than on tour when net sessions are truncated around injury and workload concerns etc.</p>
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<p>Yes you need to devise bowling plans and give the guys feedback, but maybe than can be done from afar in some cases.</p>
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Pretty certain Cairnsys third marriage split up and after the stress he's been through a bowling gig with the BCs would be like a picnic :whistle:</p></blockquote><br>
I've just misplaced the roof of my house somewhere.
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<p>Pretty certain Cairnsys third marriage split up and after the stress he's been through a bowling gig with the BCs would be like a picnic :whistle:</p>
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<p>And acquaintances everywhere are all NO. I'm not shelling out for a 4th fucking wedding present. He can bloody well recycle from the previous weddings.</p> -
<p><b><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://tinyurl.com/BC-2008-10'>http://tinyurl.com/BC-2008-10</a></b></p>
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<p>BCs bowling for the 2 years he was bowling coach last time....</p>
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<p><b><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://tinyurl.com/BC-2008-10'>http://tinyurl.com/BC-2008-10</a></b></p>
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<p>BCs bowling for the 2 years he was bowling coach last time....</p>
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<p>Throws up an interesting one in Iain OBrien.</p>
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<p>Does not make pretty ready that, though the cattle is somewhat lacking. Southee at 42.5...</p>
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<p>On another note fuck Oram had good stats in tests. 36 batting average with 5 test tons (against <em>good</em> opposition too) is nothing to be sneezed at, and a 33 bowling average at an RPO of 2.3. If he had played 80+ matches instead of just 33 he could easily have ended up with 40/30 type stats which would put him up there with some of the best all rounders of all time. Gotta feel for the guy with all the bloody injuries he had.</p>
